Balance Preview Update 09/03/2015

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 18:43 PMhhhhh

Are the AT Partisans in the Soviet Reserves commander showing up for anyone else? They were supposedly fixed in this update, but I still don't see them. Maybe it's just me.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 18:53 PMJaedrik

Not sure, but remember that none of the tooltips or portraits or anything get updated with the balance preview mods.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 22:15 PMMr. Someguy

Is it me or are the PPSh changes either very weak or not in effect at all? I made a full PPSh Conscript fight a regular Conscript at range, and each time the result was PPSh wiped, Reg 0-1 Casualties. Definitely seems like the PPSh was unchanged.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 22:41 PMbroodwarjc

Uh, what?

• Mid accuracy increased from 0.23 to 0.43
  
• Far accuracy increased from 0.115 to 0.2
  

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 22:51 PMMr. Someguy

Conscript PPSH

Increase their mid and far range profile so the weapon itself is not an immediate downgrade in overall dps.

• Mid accuracy increased from 0.23 to 0.43
  
• Far accuracy increased from 0.115 to 0.2
  

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog?p=204119#post204119

Although now that I look at it, the numbers seem pretty weak. I have no idea how to calculate the DPS though.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 23:09 PMcomm_ash

While that mid range buff is fairly significant, I don't think the long range buff will do much. It seems like PPSHs for cons have a closer curve to STG44s now, just a worse at mid.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 23:11 PMMr. Someguy

Yeah, I was hoping their minimum DPS would at least be in-line with the Conscript Mosin, like every other ballistic weapon upgrade is.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 23:52 PMnewvan

Cons with mosin vet0 - 3.4/1.6/0.7 per model, new PPSH per model - 9.2/1.7/0.2, it's slightly better from mid range than rifle, but much better than it was - 9.2/0.9/0.1.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2015, 23:52 PMnewvan

There is no smg in the game, that better than the crappiest infantry rifle at long range.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 00:25 AMMr. Someguy

Thanks, that's interesting. It'll at least no worse at mid range.



There's also no ballistic upgrade (MG 42, BAR, G43, DP, etc) that reduces DPS. All of them increase DPS at all ranges, even if it's negligible, but you won't be hurting if your MG Grens are up close, or G43 Grens at range. Conscript PPSh is the black sheep, it doesn't have this benefit.

Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 00:25 AMMr. Someguy

There's also no ballistic upgrade (MG 42, BAR, G43, DP, etc) that reduces DPS. All of them increase DPS at all ranges, even if it's negligible, but you won't be hurting if your MG Grens are up close, or G43 Grens at range. Conscript PPSh is the black sheep, it doesn't have this benefit.