Login

russian armor
COH2.ORG » Forums » Parlor Room » COH2 Central » COH2 Balance » Chruchill AVRE tank OP

Chruchill AVRE tank OP

PAGES (7)down
New topic New topic     Upload replay New Reply
BlackKorp
1 Sep 2015, 10:39 AM
#1
avatar of BlackKorp

Posts: 974 | Subs: 2

Chruchill will probably get nerfed in the next patch, now aviable as tuning pack

Churchill AVRE
Health reduced from 1600 to 1400
Petard damage reduced from 640 to 440
Petard bonus damage multiplier vs buildings 1.45

Like my own experience and Stormless video presents is the Churchill AVRE really over the top. I one hit some axis tanks with it (not sure if he is even able to oneshot Kingtiger) and its really ridiculous. :hansRAGE:

- Huge amound of HP (1600?, the highest ingame?)
- 360° moving turret
- just a reload of 40 secounds, at vet 1 around 30 seounds or less and with command tank?
- reloading while moving makes it extrem nasty and agile in combat
- giving oneshots most of the axis tanks
- even more imbalanced as Sturmtiger



Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Iron Emperor
1 Sep 2015, 10:51 AM
#2
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

The AVRE is just insane, and with 1600 HP you can't do any shit against it Kappa. Increase all HP of all axis and allied tanks then Kappa
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
mycalliope
1 Sep 2015, 11:01 AM
#3
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

sturmtiger is a joke compared to a.v.r.e and in real life sturitger shell is much stronger and yet reclic wants to nerf it even more in the next matach by decresing its a.o.e and that not all sturtiger all 5 veterancy are joke compared to a.v.r.e all the vets of avre are relevant and op to the unit.....a vet 5 sturtiger >> avre but in game its insane....if avre remains better than sturitger in next patch m leaving coh 2 thats all gg relic i dont care just maket sturiger 230 fuel or something but make it a better unit dont insult the history behind the unit.FUCK RELIC !!
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
mycalliope
1 Sep 2015, 11:02 AM
#4
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

you forgot its ridiculous vets and it doesnt gets disabled like sturmtiger and relic wants to nerf sturmtiger in next patch :foreveralone:
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
BlackKorp
1 Sep 2015, 11:17 AM
#5
avatar of BlackKorp

Posts: 974 | Subs: 2

what, 1600 hp? thats more than insane, i don't get the mind behind those things i really don't.

And i don`t want to compaire a game with real life, but the AVRE was one shot you had to reload it from outside the tank while sturmtiger was able to reload from inside. the animatin with the crane is not real, just for loading shells, in real sturmtiger could carry 16 rounds (not sure how many).
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
TheMachine
1 Sep 2015, 12:10 PM
#6
avatar of TheMachine
Senior Caster Badge

Posts: 875 | Subs: 6

Likewise with the SturmTiger, something that strong shouldn't have so much health and armour. Pretty silly.

It should also have a munitions cost attached to it like in Coh1. Make it cost say 15 munitions each shot. that would make it interesting.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
AvNY
1 Sep 2015, 13:08 PM
#7
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

jump backJump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 11:01 AMmycalliope
sturmtiger is a joke compared to a.v.r.e and in real life sturitger shell is much stronger and yet reclic wants to nerf it even more in the next matach by decresing its a.o.e and that not all sturtiger all 5 veterancy are joke compared to a.v.r.e all the vets of avre are relevant and op to the unit.....a vet 5 sturtiger >> avre but in game its insane....if avre remains better than sturitger in next patch m leaving coh 2 thats all gg relic i dont care just maket sturiger 230 fuel or something but make it a better unit dont insult the history behind the unit.FUCK RELIC !!



Historically? Oh please. The thing was barely beyond the prototye phase and has no history of combat effectiveness. In effect IT HAS NO HISTORY.

OTOH there were 180 AVREs ready at the time of D-Day and 750 produced overall. And they had more armor than a Tiger I and the Sturmtiger.

The unit might be OP. And will certainly get nerfed (there are already rivers of Axis tears). But please don't use "historical" as a comparison of the existence or performance of German vehicles in Relic games. Probably ever.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Kreatiir
1 Sep 2015, 13:14 PM
#8
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

Such a unit should not be in the game imo.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
mycalliope
1 Sep 2015, 13:27 PM
#9
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

jump backJump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:08 PMAvNY



Historically? Oh please. The thing was barely beyond the prototye phase and has no history of combat effectiveness. In effect IT HAS NO HISTORY.

OTOH there were 180 AVREs ready at the time of D-Day and 750 produced overall. And they had more armor than a Tiger I and the Sturmtiger.

The unit might be OP. And will certainly get nerfed (there are already rivers of Axis tears). But please don't use "historical" as a comparison of the existence or performance of German vehicles in Relic games. Probably ever.


first of all units numbers dont have anything to do in game only 4 st saw action in ww2 no matter how rare the unit will be in the game..the point is about perfomance second of all m talking about the actual shell which sturmtiger had much better and the avre armor were still no match for german a.t
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Jadame!
1 Sep 2015, 13:33 PM
#10
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

AVRE op? Oh hoh you know nothing.

Witness vet 3 croc. This thing worth entire army.
Playercard of Jadame

4v4: Pstreak: + 3
4v4: Pstreak: + 9
4v4: Pstreak: + 3
4v4: Pstreak: + 9


Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
FichtenMoped
1 Sep 2015, 13:44 PM
#11
avatar of FichtenMoped
Editor in Chief Badge
Patrion 310

Posts: 4785 | Subs: 3

AVRE is okay I guess when it would have to reload like Sturmtiger and had a bit longer reload
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
The_rEd_bEar
1 Sep 2015, 13:50 PM
#12
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

Everyone cried how the sturmtiger is balanced and it didn't need a nerf, now the avre is op? LOL
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
luvnest
1 Sep 2015, 13:53 PM
#13
avatar of luvnest
Strategist Badge
Patrion 39

Posts: 1094 | Subs: 20

Yay more one shot wonders.

Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Bad_Vader
1 Sep 2015, 14:02 PM
#14
avatar of Bad_Vader

Posts: 88 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:50 PMThe_rEd_bEar
Everyone cried how the sturmtiger is balanced and it didn't need a nerf, now the avre is op? LOL

That's because it's with axis tears now.
Allies tears=L2P scrubz
Axis tears=OMG OP, PLZ NERF
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
nigo
1 Sep 2015, 14:09 PM
#15
avatar of nigo
Senior Editor Badge

Posts: 2238 | Subs: 15

Mods, move this thread to balance forums.
COH3 COMPETITIVE SERIES PACK #1
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2961573188&savesuccess=1
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
AvNY
1 Sep 2015, 14:28 PM
#16
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

jump backJump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:02 PMBad_Vader

That's because it's with axis tears now.
Allies tears=L2P scrubz
Axis tears=OMG OP, PLZ NERF


I am 100% sure they don't see it that way. :P
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
mycalliope
1 Sep 2015, 14:37 PM
#17
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

Huge amound of HP (1600, the highest ingame?)
- 360° moving turret
- just a reload of 40 secounds
- reloading while moving makes it extrem nasty and agile in combat
- giving oneshots most of the axis tanks
- even more imbalanced as Sturmtiger

on top of this
Veterancy Levels:

Rank 1 – Crew experience allows for faster reloading of the powerful Petard mortar.
Rank 2 – Veteran crews can maneuver the vehicle more quickly and aim the turret faster.
Rank 3 – The Petard mortar is fitted with an even higher yield of explosives and creates a firestorm when it explodes. Additionally, the crew will repair engine-related criticals on their own after a short time.

and cost more than sturmtiger i don't know why allied fanboys are bringing st like if its even in the same ballpark as A.V.R.E
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Switzerland
1 Sep 2015, 14:45 PM
#18
avatar of Switzerland
Donator 33

Posts: 545

With the trial being 1 day out, the majority of people here haven't been hit by the AVRE they saw Storms video. Which the Sturm would do the same to a medium. Unless the AVRE has 1000 pen aswell and the same AOE both which o highly doubt; it already begs the question what people want?

If the AVRE is redonkspedonk and has worse stats apart from HP and an extremely slow turret, was is the ST? I think conversations can finally be held now that the sole axis vs sole allied crowds will relate.
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
Jawohl?
1 Sep 2015, 14:54 PM
#19
avatar of Jawohl?

Posts: 97

all churchill variants are op, just too much hp
Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
RedT3rror
1 Sep 2015, 15:34 PM
#20
avatar of RedT3rror

Posts: 747 | Subs: 2

All churchills are fine because they don't have a KWK43 mounted on them. They are nothing more than a meatshield and that's great. It is finally possible to engage heavy tank destroyers frontally and use some tactics.
Playercard of RedT3rror

3v3: Pstreak: + 4with SoE-Blackstorm-, & SoE-Sturmpanther
3v3: Pstreak: + 9with SoE-Blackstorm-, & SoE-Sturmpanther
4v4: Pstreak: + 1with SoE-Blackstorm-, -Overlord-, & SoE-Sturmpanther
4v4: Pstreak: + 1with SoE-Blackstorm-, -Overlord-, & SoE-Sturmpanther




Reply Reply Multi Quote Reply Reply
PAGES (7)down
New topic New topic     Upload replay New Reply
1 user is browsing this thread: 1 guest
COH2.ORG » Forums » Parlor Room » COH2 Central » COH2 Balance » Chruchill AVRE tank OP

Ladders Top 10

UKF
USF
OKW
SOV
OST
1v1
2v2
3v3
4v4
  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

Top Tier Teams
VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
Einhoven Country
Einhoven Country Honor
Honor it
11
 Download
Download
1265
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

961 users are online: 961 guests
1 post in the last 24h
9 posts in the last week
27 posts in the last month
Registered members: 50005
Welcome our newest member, swimmingpoolsofflori
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM