Brits first impressions (post here)

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:08 PMCorsin

I think its abit silly the AVRE can almost 1 shot a panther.

And the fact a churchill takes 7 - 8 JAGDTIGER shots to kill...

Also abit annoying relic forgot to implement many changes in this free trial but ahwel

(KT and Ostherr P4 do not have prioritize vehicle) things like that, just abit annoying but its only 3 days

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:27 PMKatitof

Given that its old alpha client and alpha was pretty much closed?
They have a separate in-house build with other changes, what we got was leftovers from old alpha, hence no changes.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 06:15 AMThatRabidPotato

Cromwell is M10 tier when it comes to crushing. Hilarious. And quite useful.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:50 PMLateralus

really hated this.

shreks rarely get a shot off with a bumrushed cromwell; that damn setup, resetup, resetup, resetup, CRUSHED.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 12:40 PMIpKaiFung

The accuracy improves as you get closer on all weapons, stop talking shite. The inverse damage curve is a result of smaller burst duration at close range as well as increased aim time at close range.

| | | far: 0.46f;
| | | mid: 0.518f;
| | | near: 0.575f;

Accuracy far:
0.391
Accuracy near:
0.587

Accuracy far:
0.38
Accuracy near:
0.575

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:27 PMKatitof

And let me guess, sturmtiger doing the same is "fine and balanced".

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:09 PMIpKaiFung

put all the stats in the actual spreadsheet,the inverse curve is still there. Stop trying to spin shit.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:12 PMAlexzandvar

EDIT: I'm not saying the Bren doesn't work like other LMG's

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 21:35 PMAlexzandvar

-British LMG's are inverse to normal LMG's, they do better DPS as you get close.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:10 PMUberHanz

Sturmtiger needs manual reload and cant move while doing that. ARVE has insane reload time and almost same damage (feels like its even more for single targets, just less AoE).

Guys, ARVE seems a big issue in terms of balance. Wouldn't you agree?

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:10 PMUberHanz

Sturmtiger needs manual reload and cant move while doing that. ARVE has insane reload time and almost same damage (feels like its even more for single targets, just less AoE).

Guys, ARVE seems a big issue in terms of balance. Wouldn't you agree?

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:17 PMKatitof

You can SEE AVRE aiming at you because it have low range.

You will NEVER see properly used sturmtiger and will know it was there by evaporated unit and squad/tank lost announcement.

Yes, AVRE can potentially shoot more often, but unless you have a micro and reflexes of your grandma, you will NOT be hit by the AVRE once you'll realize its limits.

Sturmtiger and AVRE have same 640 damage, sturmtiger have 1000 pen, AVRE have 150 pen, both have similar aim time, but AVRE can't ignore shot blockers and can't fire from FOW, giving you time to react before each shot.

It doesn't matter that Sturm shoots slower and reloads longer if 100% of its shots are effective, which can't be said about AVRE vs non sloth type player.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:30 PMUberHanz

You sure about all this info? Cuz it seems to my that AVRE actually can ignore shot blockers. It shoots across buildings at least.

Also watched the stream of stormless or siberian yesterday almost getting wrecked by AVRE. It has nothing to do with granny-like micro. Paks, Mortars, MGs and very slow tanks will get hit occasionally.

The auto-reload while moving is the feature which lets me trade AVRE for Sturmtiger any time.

Well, admitted, a bit early to start a balance discussion.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 13:27 PMKatitof

And let me guess, sturmtiger doing the same is "fine and balanced".


If that includes 3-4 shots that have completely missed, then you got that number right.



Given that its old alpha client and alpha was pretty much closed?
They have a separate in-house build with other changes, what we got was leftovers from old alpha, hence no changes.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:38 PMCorsin

Glad you mentiond the Stiger...

The Stiger has a 50 second reload and can be decrewed if shot while reloading. The AVRE doesn't suffer from such a handicap.

ALso the AVRE deals more direct damage to tanks.

Stiger cannot 1 shot a T34/85 with its 1 round per min (almost) yet an Avre can 1 shot a panther more often and thats balance? yeah ok. LOL

And no jagdtiger deals around 1 8th of a churchils health per shot. Mine didnt miss any and i counted...

Still won the game, but sigh.


And for your last point... theve implemented changes like the Stiger being moved to commander and p4 moved into mainstream... Yet Sturmpios ect are still 40mp with slower build times and so on... seems abit lazy.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2015, 14:20 PMPhy

My impressions (may be wrong):

-In 1vs1 they are UP
-In 2vs2 early-mid they struggle a lot (perhaps in mixed teams they will be really good because its sinergy with soviets/usf)
-PIATS suck
-Brits mp drain is too heavy and mp cost not always worth it for the performance of the unit
-Brits surprisily not OP rather the opposite