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Swap T-34/76 with 85?

31 Aug 2015, 15:17 PM
#21
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Its so easy yo kill Jagtigers with them, just get one behind it and dead cat

Hell yeah B-)
31 Aug 2015, 15:38 PM
#22
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 15:16 PMCorsin
Its fine the way it is.... /topic


Care to elaborate?
31 Aug 2015, 15:41 PM
#23
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 15:15 PMKatitof

Also combos like this are already present in 3v3 and 4v4, allies are still losing miserably.


How exactly do you explain that when it's AT versus AT win rates are almost exactly the same? Like legit asking here.
31 Aug 2015, 15:50 PM
#24
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Agreed


But think about it! Su-85 + T-34/85 + Katusyha is what you have in Soviet tier 4 now with Guard Motor Coordination or Advanced Warfare. It's not really a buff to the Soviet faction as a whole, it's just a nerf to those doctrines and a boast to the stock faction.

The only potential balance problem is the new possible combination of T-34/85 with other Soviet doctrinal units. This, however, is not such a horrible issue. We already have IS2 + 85 combo with Armored Assault and that isn't even a popular doc at all.

Shocks + IS2 + T34-85 would be possible, I suppose, and maybe that'd be an issue...
31 Aug 2015, 15:57 PM
#25
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t34/85, su85 and katyusha would be a bit too ridiculous


yeah.
:thumb:
31 Aug 2015, 15:59 PM
#26
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^ But you already get that combination with the Soviet doctrine that most people use...
31 Aug 2015, 16:01 PM
#27
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 15:15 PMKatitof


I don't think there is soviet upgrade for direct link with Caucasus oil fields to make it possible to afford such combos.

Also combos like this are already present in 3v3 and 4v4, allies are still losing miserably.

The coordination isn't exactly on point' in random 4v4/3v3s. It's different when one person is controlling such things.. if that makes sense? Furthermore it is very possible to float enough fuel to get an IS-2 and t-34/85 or 2. I've floated 400+ fuel playing Ostheer with mobile defense. Surely if one wanted to as Soviets they could do the same eh?
31 Aug 2015, 16:35 PM
#28
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Care to elaborate?


It shouldnt need me to elaborate. The soviet army is currently the most potent faction in the game (for the next 3 days lol). T34/85 tanks are a doctrinal bonus. Why dont we make ISU152s non-doctrinal too? Or shocktroops? since we dont like penals?

Ect...
31 Aug 2015, 16:40 PM
#29
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In the panzerwerfer thread, we seem to want a buffed panzerwerfer available around T3 so Ostheer could actually have rocket artillery that does something, as well as access to panzer iv, stug G, and Ostwind. *shrugs*
And of course Ost still has its nice infantry.

The only outstanding factor of the t34/85 is its health. Not worth the effort switching them up.
31 Aug 2015, 16:47 PM
#30
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lower pop cap of t34/76
31 Aug 2015, 16:55 PM
#31
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I'd prefer they reduce it's pop cap ideally. It's a fun tank but not exceptional in any way. MP could come down by 20 maybe to 280 in my opinion, but it may break 2v2's and below with spam.
31 Aug 2015, 17:27 PM
#32
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 16:35 PMCorsin


It shouldnt need me to elaborate. The soviet army is currently the most potent faction in the game (for the next 3 days lol). T34/85 tanks are a doctrinal bonus. Why dont we make ISU152s non-doctrinal too? Or shocktroops? since we dont like penals?

Ect...


If you wanted to just add your opinion with no content, then fine, but this thread has a poll you can use for that, so making a post like that is basically just spam.

Why not make Osts the stock Wehrmacht infantry and put grenadiers in special doctrines? I mean what's next, you want a non-doctrinal P4, a stock Panther? :foreveralone:


aaa
31 Aug 2015, 20:00 PM
#33
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T34/76 is a joke in t4. It belongs to T3. Add it to T3 as a 4th unit with 6-8cp requirement or istead of trash SU76.
non-doc T34/85 in T4 will make the game more fair.
31 Aug 2015, 20:09 PM
#34
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King Tiger and Panther said that non-doc T-34/85 is very OP.
31 Aug 2015, 20:30 PM
#35
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 13:50 PMKatitof

With that pure Aryan playercard of yours? :snfBarton:

every time he can means every time it gets abandoned :foreveralone:
31 Aug 2015, 20:32 PM
#36
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Honestly I quite like my spammable T-34/76, once T4 is up we can pump 'em out at a rate of 1 every 4 minutes in an equal game, as opposed to 1 every 6 minutes for a Ostheer P4 and 1 every 10 minutes for OKW P4. T-34/85's come out too slow when you need a tank fast.
aaa
31 Aug 2015, 21:30 PM
#37
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T34/76 in T4 is an obvious mistake in last patch.


jump backJump back to quoted post31 Aug 2015, 20:09 PMUGBEAR
King Tiger and Panther said that non-doc T-34/85 is very OP.

nice post
31 Aug 2015, 22:32 PM
#38
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Bait successful, feeding the troll you must not.

On: it's not gonna happen.
31 Aug 2015, 22:33 PM
#39
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Lets not make the Soviets more OP.


Actually Soviets should be "OP" becouse Soviet won the WW2
aaa
1 Sep 2015, 00:02 AM
#40
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On: it's not gonna happen.


That is bad if so. Now there is no capable medium in a tech tree. 76 was only good to get it fast not as late unit.
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