G43s - What's The Point?

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 10:45 AMCarlos Danger

I really don't understand what the purpose of the Ostheer Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade is right now. It's a crappy upgrade for Panzer Grenadiers and it's not explicitly better than the LMG42 upgrade for regular Grenadiers, either. I get that it will outperform the LMG42 at close range and while moving, but a special commander upgrade should be doing a bit more than that. (And yeah, I know about the interrogation feature, but is that really that big a deal?) In their current iteration, the G43s are a redundant and rather underwhelming commander ability.

Same thing goes, I guess, for the Soviet PPSh Package, which seems pretty meh as well. I don't really use it (doesn't that says something right there), so it's hard for me to assess.

TL;DR. The Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade needs to be changed so that it's more than a novelty alternative to the LMG42.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 10:45 AMCarlos Danger

... It's a crappy upgrade for Panzer Grenadiers and it's not explicitly better than the LMG42 upgrade for regular Grenadiers, either...
TL;DR. The Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade needs to be changed so that it's more than a novelty alternative to the LMG42.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 18:57 PMelchino7

PG: i'll rather up the cost of it to 60 an give them Scoped G43 which has a chance of sniping models.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:03 PMmiragefla

If PGs got a scoped G43, you'd still need the entire squad to have a weapon swap as those assault rifles don't really mix well as you'd want to stick at range rather than mid-short.

Give them something between the Ober and Grenadier Kar98?

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:04 PMluvnest

G43s are awesome. They allow you to play ostheer more aggressively than with LMG42s.

Check out this replay.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:09 PMturbotortoise

interrogation is a big big deal.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:47 PMHogman512

Exactly what Luvnest said. They allow you to be more mobile and not have to stop to get that deadly DPS. Heck, I have had Soviet opponents run at me with a shock squad and then realise just how deadly G43s are!



Again, a fine point being made here. Interrogation is great, especially vs USF. You've just have a big battle, the forces have retreated and interrogation could provide intel about where his forward retreat point is, drop a flame bomb on him from your mortar HT and GG. And even if that kind of thing doesn't happen, it can provide you with a vital look into his FOW. Just knowing that point XYZ is undefended is worthwhile enough IMO.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:03 PMmiragefla

If PGs got a scoped G43, you'd still need the entire squad to have a weapon swap as those assault rifles don't really mix well as you'd want to stick at range rather than mid-short.

Give them something between the Ober and Grenadier Kar98?

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:53 PMWhat Doth Life?!

Just a note: G43 and Mortar HT aren't in the same commander.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 19:56 PMMr. Someguy

Wait why? JLI fight just fine at short range. And taking away the StG's would be a considerable downgrade and nobody wants that.