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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 14:51 PM
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Been playing a lot lately, loving the new patch!

I post this in the gameplay section because I don't think its gamebreaking, I just dont know how to counter it. If I had a decent PC I would post replays, but I disabled the function to have some decent fps on this piece of crap :D

Anyway, my question is how you can counter a wall of SU76, Maxims and mortars? Most of the times the maxims and the mortars are no problem, but the :hansRNG: barrage wipes squad of me all the time. I tried stalling for a LeFH, it makes a good comeback. But mostly its too late in the game.

Does anyone have tips how to counter this? :) I mostly play 2v2 now.

Thanks in advance :luvCarrot:
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dart_striker
28 Jul 2015, 14:52 PM
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I've found that JP4 can be effective against su-76 if you support them with a good squad with large sight radius.
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Katitof
28 Jul 2015, 14:57 PM
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JP4 as OKW, shreck flank(or flank with anything) as Ost.
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Tatatala
28 Jul 2015, 15:06 PM
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StuG and PaK combo as Ost. It can't barrage and shoot the StuG at the same time.
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pussyking
28 Jul 2015, 16:31 PM
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Double pak meta
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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 16:32 PM
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Thanks for the tips! JP4 is a good counter indeed.

Should try the schrecks out, but I spend much ammo on tellers. Schrecks sound like a better idea :p

I tried getting a stug and pak combo earlier, but when they have too much SU's (like 4) they just barrage the AT gun away, and later the Stug.
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pussyking
28 Jul 2015, 16:34 PM
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If SU has 4 SU76 then you should have a panther which can pick em one by one and gg
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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 16:37 PM
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I had a Panther, I managed to kill one of them. Yesterday I had 2 SU76's and they could barely penetrate the Ostwind, so I was pretty suprised the Panther went down that fast.
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Katitof
28 Jul 2015, 16:48 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 16:37 PMStafkeh
I had a Panther, I managed to kill one of them. Yesterday I had 2 SU76's and they could barely penetrate the Ostwind, so I was pretty suprised the Panther went down that fast.


You do realize that SU-76 minimum penetration is about 70 greater then ostwind armor?
It can't barely penetrate Ostwind, it will penetrate it with each shot.
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Alexzandvar
28 Jul 2015, 17:02 PM
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Using Pak's to counter SU-76's is hit or miss (literally) best counter Iv found is Puma's. But then again is the best counter to literally everything in the meta right now so....
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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 17:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 16:48 PMKatitof


You do realize that SU-76 minimum penetration is about 70 greater then ostwind armor?
It can't barely penetrate Ostwind, it will penetrate it with each shot.


Frontal to? Well, maybe it penetrated, but didn't do much damage :p
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ElSlayer
28 Jul 2015, 18:01 PM
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Barrage is inconsistent crap (actually, it consistently miss) and is really effective only at minimal range.
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Mr. Someguy
28 Jul 2015, 18:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 17:02 PMAlexzandvar
Using Pak's to counter SU-76's is hit or miss (literally) best counter Iv found is Puma's. But then again is the best counter to literally everything in the meta right now so....


That's because Wehrmacht doesn't have any high tier light vehicles except the doctrinal Puma and doctrinal StuG-E. Who knew the Panzer III Relic cut before release would actually be so useful in the future :p
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Alexzandvar
28 Jul 2015, 18:33 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 18:01 PMElSlayer
Barrage is inconsistent crap (actually, it consistently miss) and is really effective only at minimal range.


If you use it on targets you have sight of it's a lot more accurate. But what more do you want for a free barrage?
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Aerohank
28 Jul 2015, 18:45 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 16:34 PMpussyking
If SU has 4 SU76 then you should have a panther which can pick em one by one and gg


A panther against 4 SU76. Good joke mate. The panther will be dead before he can even pick one of the 4 SU76s off.

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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 19:01 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 18:33 PMAlexzandvar

free barrage


Wait what, that barrage is free??
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RPhilMan1
28 Jul 2015, 19:09 PM
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Have you never played as Soviet?
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ElSlayer
28 Jul 2015, 19:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 18:33 PMAlexzandvar


If you use it on targets you have sight of it's a lot more accurate. But what more do you want for a free barrage?

I would gladly pay munitions for consistent effect, even if it would be weaker than current one.
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Alexzandvar
28 Jul 2015, 19:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 19:21 PMElSlayer

I would gladly pay munitions for consistent effect, even if it would be weaker than current one.


The SU-76 barrage is literally a ZiS gun barrage with more scatter, I think it's fine the way it is. We don't need the SU-76 to be anymore powerful than it already is.
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Stafkeh
28 Jul 2015, 19:43 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 19:09 PMRPhilMan1
Have you never played as Soviet?

I always thought it had a price cost, just like the ZiS has.
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