Soviet T3 need cost increase or Ost T3 cost reduction!

No, I need to be awake and watch the closet.

I'm afraid that you'll come out of it one night and start arguing with me, convincing me how obviously false data is one and only correct, pretty much like Jehovah whiteness, except I won't be able to pretend I'm not at home.

You two should just get married already.

Stuart is not capable of destroying a Panzer IV or a Panther. No buff or nerf is required now.

It can kill a puma when using the shock shots. So for me the stuart is fine

It can kill a puma when using the shock shots. So for me the stuart is fine

And puma can fart smoke and kill it anyway.

How about we actually play the patch for a month or so before we start hitting the nerf train. We do this shit with Axis units all the time.

How about we actually play the patch for a month or so before we start hitting the nerf train. We do this shit with Axis units all the time.

Nerf the M5 rest is ok then for me as Light tanks. @ Katitof it's true that you have smoke, but if it stuns it's probably a 80% chance that you lose it. If you can fart fast enough you can indeed just go away and still kill it.

And puma can fart smoke and kill it anyway.

What is attack ground

What is attack ground

Something that won't work before that whooping 5sec buff expires.
Stuart loses to puma unless you REALLY get if off guard.

Something that won't work before that whooping 5sec buff expires.
Stuart loses to puma unless you REALLY get if off guard.

The Stuart is actually more accurate shooting into FOW than out. The whole point of the Stuart is killing tanks by ambushing them

The Stuart is actually more accurate shooting into FOW than out. The whole point of the Stuart is killing tanks by ambushing them

omg i should kill tanks by ambushing them with a Stuart please tell us more.

omg i should kill tanks by ambushing them with a Stuart please tell us more.

Better yet, show us.

Stuart will never kill mediums all by it's own

Stuart will never kill mediums all by it's own

Obviously but for hunting behind enemy lines ( just like the puma) the Stuart Is great for killing wounded mediums and light tanks

Bait post from (who else but) QR invissed.

Do you have a fetish for pissing people off?

Obviously but for hunting behind enemy lines ( just like the puma) the Stuart Is great for killing wounded mediums and light tanks

Yes a perfect hit and run tank with mediocre speed for its size, no smoke and no blitz... perfect for the role you describe!

Please tell us more about your allied strategy's

Queen lives for the rage of others

ok lets see if i can help some of the confusion here.

First: Im pretty sure nobody here wants ost t3 to have same price as sov t3. (And if you do, you want an unfair matchup not a balanced one.) Afterall sov t3!= ost t3.

But, its pretty clear that currently sov t2+t3 (or even t1+t3) completely outclasses ost t1+t2. This would be ok if (a) ost could access t3 and hence vehicle based AT in a short enough window from that point on OR (b) had a true light tank of their own. But they cant do (a) due to a massive price disparity (170 fu vs 130 fu, even bigger gap if sov doesnt go for nades.) and (b) is ofcourse not an option.

Now, there are several possible fixes except reducing price of ost t3 as that would be unfair to USF.

Fixes include:

limiting m5 quad mount upgrade by cps and/or t4 as its suppressive power is overpowering to ost inf or nerfing m5.

increasing sov t3 cost by 20fu (or other appropriate value).

giving ost a true light tank, either pz2, puma or pz3. I personally am in favour of a pz3 with good at capabilities, mediocre AI; superior to stuart but inferior to t34/shreman.

The su76 and the stuart were recently buffed to make them decent even in the face of pziv or panther. Ironically the recent teching buff for the allies might necessitate nerfing the stuart and su-76 back to the previous level.

I highly doubt that they can take on a p IV or a panther. Also the US Major now costs more, 120 fuel instead of 90

I highly doubt that they can take on a p IV or a panther. Also the US Major now costs more, 120 fuel instead of 90

An SU-76 has a 100% change to pen a PIV at every range. In numbers SU-76's don't really have anything to fear but Super Heavy TD's.