21st patch Howie's + 2 click counters. What to do?

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 02:26 AMLemonJuice

u guys think so narrowly when thinking of balance suggestions. its quite true its tough to balance between these high value static emplacements and the '2 click counters' that destroy them. personally id like to see both howitzers get their range reduced by 25-33%, their cost reduced to 400-450, pop reduced, unable to be built in base sectors and maybe drop the number of shells fired down just a tad.

i think this pretty drastic change would force players to build howitzers in significantly more forward positions than they are now to use them offensively (which at the same time will leave them vulnerable to pushes from the enemy), or they can choose to build them further in their own territory and use them as a defensive unit instead. the decrease in cost means that having 2 or even 3 howitzers is feasible, and significantly reduces the impact of a single stuka divebomb taking out your investment.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2015, 21:59 PMQueenRatchet123

Lets just say they are built around artillery

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 08:27 AMEmporer Palpatine

Heaven forsake us, we are doomed

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 09:53 AMCardboard Tank

The Panzerwerfer is still shit. Better veterancy gain on something shitty isn´t going to fix it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 08:28 AMOmega_Warrior

Don't worry. It's just an alpha tester inside joke.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 09:53 AMCardboard Tank

I´m a bit disappointed about the changes to the Panzerwerfer and 105 and 152.

Some more shells doesn´t necessarily make the 105 and 152 a better weapon. The only thing that means is base raping artillery. They still suck versus mobile units and hitting them. In the end they are better - but only for abusing. Something that´s going to be very frustrating.

The Panzerwerfer is still shit. Better veterancy gain on something shitty isn´t going to fix it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 02:26 AMLemonJuice

u guys think so narrowly when thinking of balance suggestions. its quite true its tough to balance between these high value static emplacements and the '2 click counters' that destroy them. personally id like to see both howitzers get their range reduced by 25-33%, their cost reduced to 400-450, pop reduced, unable to be built in base sectors and maybe drop the number of shells fired down just a tad.

i think this pretty drastic change would force players to build howitzers in significantly more forward positions than they are now to use them offensively (which at the same time will leave them vulnerable to pushes from the enemy), or they can choose to build them further in their own territory and use them as a defensive unit instead. the decrease in cost means that having 2 or even 3 howitzers is feasible, and significantly reduces the impact of a single stuka divebomb taking out your investment.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 04:10 AMpigsoup

yes please.

similar treatment for b4, too. maybe make it even cheaper. although i dont know how to balance or suck the frustration out of RNG wiping machine.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2015, 15:44 PMGrumpy

Some of the differences between those two and COH is that they don't have "super" units (other than WC3's heroes)