About the next patch. T70s are coming!

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 13:36 PMKatitof

Its dirt cheap.
You can't expect much of such low cost vehicle.

Not from a single one at least.

I would like them to be more effective against infantry, but they already are light vehicle soft counter as well. You can't have generalist vehicle at such low price and have it effective against both inf and light armor. Does greyhound still loses to it?

Single one will always be a scout, you need at least two to have some decent Ai firepower.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 13:41 PMBeefSurge

I would support making it come with autocannon upgrade but cost 30 fuel and more MP.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 13:44 PMKatitof

That still wouldn't excuse buffing it as you'd simply shift muni upgrade cost to mp and fuel cost.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 12:06 PMMoerserKarL

the magic word is "teller mine"

Tellermine43

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 15:57 PMchipwreckt

Good thing Ostheer had Mobile defense buff. Pumas (at 5cp now) + command tank will kill these strats fairly easy.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 11:30 AMatouba

I have read the next balance patch notes and I lol...

Relic says they want to increase the viability of light vehicle combat. So the T70/M5/SU76 will come out earlier than before by 40 fuel. And they increases OSTHEER Building 3 and Building 4 fuel cost(Stug and Pz4 will be late), then decreases USF T3 building cost(quick STUAT).

So the first T70 needs only 50+80+75-50=155 fuel cost the next patch. (Don't forget 50 fuel is given to soviet at the starting of the game.)

The first STUAT needs only 60+80-40=100 fuel. (Dont't forget 40 fuel is given at the starting.)

Then what does the Ostheer have that time? 222 and 251 will be the designed counters ??? LOL...

You wanna balance the game? Nope, you are destroying the game. You want people to build more light vehicles? Nope, OST players will never build 222 and 251 the next patch, because they must build pak40s (320 MP) first... Then make a quick StugIII or Pz4 to counter the allies light vehicles.

T70s are coming the next patch. Don't forget the Soviet Industry commander... As an ostheer player, I will never play ost the next patch...

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 16:23 PMcomm_ash

Hmm, what if we gave the 222 increased pen, and make the upgrade cost 70mu? Making it a soft counter to just about anything, including flanked mediums.

Probably would be too powerful at 15fu, but would be an interesting change.

222 wet tissue paper armor motorized 2cm staple gun car. Increase armor to 12, 2cm comes standard does 25 damage instead of 20. Raise cost to 250 mp 30-35 fuel. Remove flametracks asinine t3 requirement.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 16:32 PMMoerserKarL

the teller cost 50 munition and does 400 damage. How much HP has a stuart or t70? Anyway enough to kill it or an quad AA for example

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 16:58 PMeebies

Hi, my name is Wehrmacht T2 here with a PSA. I'm pretty cool, as I contain not only the most potent, fearsome anti-tank gun in the game, but I also include the most deadly AT infantry. I also produce a vehicle called a Half-Track that while most aren't aware exists anymore, can be used to more safely ferry those fearsome AT infantry around now that T34 rushes won't be the issue they once were! I'm... I'm really great for combined arms play, just please, give me-- Wehrmacht T2-- a chance!

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 17:12 PMgnaggnoyil

Do not forget that Puma f**ks the whole soviet T3(T70, M5, SU76) easily, and you just need 5CP to call a Puma.

It is Puma, not T70 or Stuart, that is the king of light armor, and that benefits the most from the upcoming patch which aims to let light armors fight longer.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2015, 16:12 PMdaspoulos

222 wet tissue paper armor motorized 2cm staple gun car. Increase armor to 12, 2cm comes standard does 25 damage instead of 20. Raise cost to 250 mp 30-35 fuel. Remove flametracks asinine t3 requirement.