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RPhilMan1
13 Jul 2015, 19:07 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 18:54 PMJadame!


Have to see, too good to believe. Still HMG42 considering it now could be ordered from t0 not nerfed even close to enough. Make it 300 mp or better, as i sad, reduce damage.


And now with starting MP of 420, MG-42 will be the first unit to be trained while T1 is being built. Pio + MG-42 + Gren opening. Suppress and cause retreat of first squad of Con/Rifle it encounters and you have a nice head start.

Early fuel lockdown easily possible. Allies will have to be cautious where they run and cap in the first couple of minutes. Maybe even bypass certain areas to try to flank. But if the Axis player puts the MG-42 in a building, you're out of luck.
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Alexzandvar
13 Jul 2015, 19:14 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:04 PMGluhoman
You kidding? From 60 oil to 80? Is it cheaper?


T3 wasn't 60 fuel before so uh.
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Esxile
13 Jul 2015, 19:14 PM
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I guess we will see less USF in 1vs1 with the coming patch.
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Frost
13 Jul 2015, 19:17 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:14 PMEsxile
I guess we will see less USF in 1vs1 with the coming patch.


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Theodosios
13 Jul 2015, 19:18 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:04 PMGluhoman
You kidding? From 60 oil to 80? Is it cheaper?


Correct me if I am wrong: T3 costs 120 fuel currently and not 60.
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QueenRatchet123
13 Jul 2015, 19:19 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 18:48 PMAlexzandvar
Maxim spam is going to make a come back in a big way against OKW now that the Maxim has AoE suppression.


Where does it say this?
jump backJump back to quoted post17 Aug 2015, 14:01 PMJohnnyB

There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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bulatcr
13 Jul 2015, 19:20 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 18:54 PMJadame!


Have to see, too good to believe. Still HMG42 considering it now could be ordered from t0 not nerfed even close to enough. Make it 300 mp or better, as i sad, reduce damage.


You haven't played the game after patch yet, stop whining.
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_underscore
13 Jul 2015, 19:20 PM
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IIRC fixed artillery were generally used to bombard retreat points, so the number of shells fired was halved to make this less irritating. To compensate for the loss in performance the barrage timer was reduced.

Now they are restored to former glory but with the faster timer still in place.
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Aerohank
13 Jul 2015, 19:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:14 PMAlexzandvar


T3 wasn't 60 fuel before so uh.


Probably a change from a previous Alpha patch.

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Alexzandvar
13 Jul 2015, 19:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:19 PMQueenRatchet123


Where does it say this?


Maxim nearby suppression multiplier increased from 0.4 to 0.8


It now has the same nearby suppression multiplier as the MG42.

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Jadame!
13 Jul 2015, 19:24 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:20 PMbulatcr


You haven't played the game after patch yet, stop whining.


But i played game currently, and guess what, hmg42 have exact same stats it would in patch. Woooaaaaaah.
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Aerohank
13 Jul 2015, 19:24 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:21 PMAlexzandvar


It now has the same nearby suppression multiplier as the MG42.



But not the same suppression AoE. So it's still not really clear how good it will be now. Might actually suppress 2 squads holding hands now without having to switch targets manually, but I doubt it will do anything more than that since it just does not have the AoE.
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iTzDusty
13 Jul 2015, 19:25 PM
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Some people are really, really over reacting from the changes.

Stop looking at single buffs/nerfs and look at the factions OVERALL.

Every faction now has delayed medium/heavy tanks, with things like t70s and stuarts coming out relatively earlier and having more time to be the kings instead of the mere minutes they get in the current live patch. People complained about the LeiG and Pak howtizer costing too much, now youll see more of them. The howitzers will also see lots of use now.

But hey, some things might be OP. After a single game (and obviously I cant make a decision after one game) most of you saw how effective the new arty pieces were. Are they OP? Maybe, but the whole point of having the preview is that you can give feedback after playing and hopefully rectify some changes.












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BeefSurge
13 Jul 2015, 19:26 PM
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Where is the USF mortar and bazooka buff
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13 Jul 2015, 19:26 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:21 PMAlexzandvar




It now has the same nearby suppression multiplier as the MG42.



Not AoE suppression

stop making shit up pls
jump backJump back to quoted post17 Aug 2015, 14:01 PMJohnnyB

There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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Aerohank
13 Jul 2015, 19:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:25 PMiTzDusty
Some people are really, really over reacting from the changes.


Are they? I see only a few complaints here, and of them none seem overtly dramatic.
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Napalm
13 Jul 2015, 19:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:25 PMiTzDusty
Some people are really, really over reacting from the changes.

Stop looking at single buffs/nerfs and look at the factions OVERALL.


Wise advice here folks.

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13 Jul 2015, 19:30 PM
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Alexzandvar
13 Jul 2015, 19:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 19:24 PMAerohank


But not the same suppression AoE. So it's still not really clear how good it will be now. Might actually suppress 2 squads holding hands now without having to switch targets manually, but I doubt it will do anything more than that since it just does not have the AoE.


The MG42 had a suppression radius of 10 until the very last patch, now the maxim (suppression wise) will be the MG42 before the latest patch. So yes it will do AoE suppression now. The maxim technically always did AoE suppression, it just did extremely little now it will do AoE suppression like all the other machine guns in the game do.


Not AoE suppression

stop making shit up pls


The nearby multiplier is what gives machine guns AoE suppression, that and suppression radius.
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13 Jul 2015, 19:35 PM
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