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m1919 rifles are overperforming

24 Jun 2015, 01:29 AM
#1
avatar of Rollo

Posts: 738

Stick a 70muni LMG on a rifle squad and suddenly they can go up against LMG obers and win just because of suppression with instant pop defensive stance. Buy two on one squad and suddenly they mow down everything that moves.

My suggestions

1. Add a small muni cost for def stance like RET's suppression fire

2. Add in a 5 second setup time where the squad is immobile and cannot fire

3. Take away some accuracy like relic did with the ober MG34 nerf
24 Jun 2015, 01:38 AM
#3
avatar of FichtenMoped
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LOL


I seriously wish to see the first post from you in ANY thread being something productive for once!
24 Jun 2015, 01:50 AM
#4
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

Yeah the problem with the M1919 is in addition to being part of LMG cancer meta it also has a stance that is used in literally the opposite of it's name.

It should just be unable to be toggled once in combat.
24 Jun 2015, 01:58 AM
#5
avatar of comm_ash
Patrion 14

Posts: 1194 | Subs: 1

The sad thing is that defensive stance used to make sense. At the beginning of WFA, defensive stance couldn't be toggled in combat, which meant that players had to set up ahead of yime, and retreat to dodge grenades. This became a problem because rifle grenades could be fires and negate def. stance. The resulting fix also made def stance use able in combat, which is why it seems you be the way it is now.
24 Jun 2015, 02:02 AM
#6
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

The commander it's in has no late game abilitity. Lack of para drop AT gun or Greyhound means you have to go Captain-which means no M20, AA Track, or HMG. That means a Sniper can bleed those Rifles into infinity. As OKW, Panzerfusiliers are an answer.

As OKW vs Infantry Company fast Luchs can be effective, as well as fully teching to King Tiger + Jagdpanzer to kill Jacksons. Obers are something I would not recommend, as well as aggressive truck placement. Seriously, do NOT place trucks trucks aggressively vs this commander.

Aggressive infantry support gun usage is possible also, but difficult.
24 Jun 2015, 02:07 AM
#7
avatar of Antilles950
Donator 22

Posts: 168

I posted about this a while ago, and even as a player that mainly plays USF, I agree. I think that defensive stance should have a small munitions cost or some other kind of drawback.
24 Jun 2015, 02:13 AM
#8
avatar of Appleseed

Posts: 622

should code they can't get into stance once in combat but can cancel the stance in combat but once it is out of stance, the unit can't go back into the stance as long as they are still in combat
24 Jun 2015, 02:17 AM
#9
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

Wut
24 Jun 2015, 02:18 AM
#10
avatar of CookiezNcreem
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Posts: 3052 | Subs: 15

Are we just gonna make a new LMG thread each week or what :foreveralone:
24 Jun 2015, 02:25 AM
#11
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Everything what is not meta should be destroyed until elite rifles, one and only remain.

This commander sucks overall, vet3 2 brownings rifles BARELY beat vet3 lmg grens (at least on long range) and if you drop one for volks you turn them into obers squad.

So... elite rifles.
24 Jun 2015, 02:33 AM
#12
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jun 2015, 02:25 AMJadame!
Everything what is not meta should be destroyed until elite rifles, one and only remain.

This commander sucks overall, vet3 2 brownings rifles BARELY beat vet3 lmg grens (at least on long range) and if you drop one for volks you turn them into obers squad.

So... elite rifles.


If you seriously think 1919's suck and the Mortar HT sucks, well, just lol.

The Priest is also very fun because you don't have to pay the pop cap for it, just fire and decrew it.
24 Jun 2015, 02:37 AM
#13
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

This commander is good vs OKW on choke point maps, that's its role. Vs Ostheer it's not good because mortars, Riflenades, and Tiger.
24 Jun 2015, 02:49 AM
#14
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

Just like blitz should be an offensive ability only, defensive stance should be an defensive ability.

Both abilities should not work when you are in combat.
24 Jun 2015, 03:16 AM
#15
avatar of Antilles950
Donator 22

Posts: 168

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jun 2015, 02:25 AMJadame!
Everything what is not meta should be destroyed until elite rifles, one and only remain.

This commander sucks overall, vet3 2 brownings rifles BARELY beat vet3 lmg grens (at least on long range) and if you drop one for volks you turn them into obers squad.

So... elite rifles.


Lol I broke into top 100 on the back of this commander. It's good if you know how to use it.
24 Jun 2015, 03:25 AM
#16
avatar of Storm267

Posts: 128

Can we stop doing the whole "the rest of this commander sucks so its ok to have X" thing.
24 Jun 2015, 03:51 AM
#17
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

Can we stop doing the whole "the rest of this commander sucks so its ok to have X" thing.
This..very very much this.....seriously look like allies fanboys have won...the germans get nerfed and allies don't and if the allies get nerfed they get price drop and axis don't.
24 Jun 2015, 04:12 AM
#19
avatar of KurtWilde
Donator 11

Posts: 440

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jun 2015, 01:29 AMRollo
Stick a 70muni LMG on a rifle squad and suddenly they can go up against LMG obers and win just because of suppression with instant pop defensive stance. Buy two on one squad and suddenly they mow down everything that moves.

My suggestions

1. Add a small muni cost for def stance like RET's suppression fire

2. Add in a 5 second setup time where the squad is immobile and cannot fire

3. Take away some accuracy like relic did with the ober MG34 nerf



24 Jun 2015, 04:15 AM
#20
avatar of daspoulos

Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1

Permanently Banned


LOL

Is there a reason that you never make constructive feedback ever? You make posts with arguments that are always condescending and give replies to other players that you otherwise would not accept yourself. You merely reply LOL anytime somebody questions if theres something OP with allies. Without fail.
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