2vs2 Winrates
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16 May 2015, 11:57 AM
#81
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Permanently BannedHERE comes a credible source
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
16 May 2015, 12:02 PM
#82
Posts: 692
Hi!
I'm still gathering win-rates from top 200 players. I'm planing to launch a website with leaderboards information which updates automatically every day. For some reason, I have not had time to finish the website yet. It will be released soon, I hope.
Anyway, my 2v2 data looks totally different than OP data. Here is some charts (9th May - 15th May):
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Paid Player / Legends
Well done tovarishch! I will see to it personally that you receive extra food and vodka ration tickets this month!
Continue your great work! It will be of great benefit for the working public!
16 May 2015, 12:06 PM
#83
Posts: 1705
OKW highest win rate..no thanks.Sorry its unbelievable.
16 May 2015, 12:08 PM
#84
Posts: 670
these tears and #shotsfired
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
16 May 2015, 12:28 PM
#85
Posts: 85
OKW highest win rate..no thanks.Sorry its unbelievable.
Bad Germans players always complain, it's usual here
They always have the feeling if they lose it's not their fault.
16 May 2015, 12:30 PM
#86
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I don't argue with numbers, I just wonder why there's such a disparity
If you need to know stats of certain unit: http://stat.coh2.hu
Which faction is OP and which is UP? Check it out here
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Which faction is OP and which is UP? Check it out here
Tips for beginners and wannabe pro's
16 May 2015, 12:39 PM
#87
Posts: 600
Just means less people in the top 200 prefer USF...
These stats actually prove the point of this thread. to an extent
16 May 2015, 12:41 PM
#88
Posts: 1702
Even from them stats.... OKW and OStheer lose ABOVE the average, and Soviet and USF lose BELOW the average...
Just means less people in the top 200 prefer USF...
These stats actually prove the point of this thread.
It's not that. Its just that double USF is just completely and utterly trash in 2v2s. They are horrible. Any good player will tell you that double USF in 2v2 is like the most underpowered thing in the game
Thank god the soviet faction exists And hopefuly a new allied faction next patch Plus maybe next patch USF lategame will finally be added into the game
16 May 2015, 12:43 PM
#90
Posts: 600
It's not that. Its just that double USF is just completely and utterly trash in 2v2s. They are horrible. Any good player will tell you that double USF in 2v2 is like the most underpowered thing in the game
USF and Soviet have the best combo in 2v2s for reasons i stated earlier.
16 May 2015, 12:43 PM
#91
Posts: 542
I am going to listen to Relics numbers (I thought there are supposed to come soon on the blog, but I guess it will still take some time), otherwise I don't care. Even with Relic there would be a possibility that there is a mistake, but I guess it is acceptable. With numbers from random people you never know if they are not just completely made up.
The numbers in the reddit post seemed very extreme so I was skeptical about it. It is also not 100% clear how the replays have been exactly chosen, "random" can mean anything.
The numbers in the reddit post seemed very extreme so I was skeptical about it. It is also not 100% clear how the replays have been exactly chosen, "random" can mean anything.
16 May 2015, 12:44 PM
#93
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Hi!
I'm still gathering win-rates from top 200 players. I'm planing to launch a website with leaderboards information which updates automatically every day. For some reason, I have not had time to finish the website yet. It will be released soon, I hope.
Anyway, my 2v2 data looks totally different than OP data. Here is some charts (9th May - 15th May):
Regards,
Paid Player / Legends
Well, OPs data includes random ranks, and also ATs, which are very common in 2v2s, from ALL skill ranges.
Would be interesting to see how the win ratios change if you do include arranged teams.
And especially how great the disparity is between the top 0.5% that you currently gather and the majority of players, the other 99.5%.
I think most of us can agree that higher ranked players have an easier time adjusting to certain balance changes, but in the end the game has to be playable for the majority, not some top 1%, and this is where OPs data is quite fascinating - even though i doubt such a huge difference in win ratios.
just my 2 cents
16 May 2015, 12:45 PM
#94
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USF and Soviet have the best combo in 2v2s for reasons i stated earlier.
USF/Soviet is inded strong, but soviet/soviet is still stronger by quite a significant margin. I was talking about double USF which is just useless
16 May 2015, 12:46 PM
#95
Posts: 600
USF/Soviet is inded strong, but soviet/soviet is still stronger by quite a significant margin. I was talking about double USF which is just
you ever seen how fast jacksons kill any german heavy tank with marked target and Airborne rocket planes?
16 May 2015, 12:51 PM
#96
Posts: 1702
you ever seen how fast jacksons kill any german heavy tank with marked target and Airborne rocket planes?
Yes, ok, too bad jacksons die instantly to raketenwerfers, pak-40s, or panzershrecks.
And USF tanks aren't even an issue. Infact their tanks are really strong. It's just that in 2v2 double USF has completely no early game in 2v2 because of certain unit combinations that they cannot counter in any way. This mostly has to do with their combined arms options being very poor + their complete lack of indirect fire in the early game.
They could use a heavy, but that isin't the major issue.
Now, if the 0.50 cal was buffed and moved to T0, and a USF would get a mortar in LT tier, suddenly they would become alot more well rounded. Pak howi also needs buffs considering that the 240mp wehrmacht mortar is better than it and is 2 times cheaper
16 May 2015, 13:07 PM
#97
Posts: 85
I think most of us can agree that higher ranked players have an easier time adjusting to certain balance changes, but in the end the game has to be playable for the majority, not some top 1%, and this is where OPs data is quite fascinating - even though i doubt such a huge difference in win ratios.
just my 2 cents
OP data are wrong or false.
And this is not how you balance a game, ask Blizzard about SC2.
If you listen Germans they only have craps units, blob of volks/Panzerfusilier with vet5, panther, stuka, KT, Panzer II yea it's so bad... jeez
16 May 2015, 13:09 PM
#98
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
OKW highest win rate..no thanks.Sorry its unbelievable.
I know, right?
Hard to believe there are axis players better then you who actually know how to play.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
16 May 2015, 13:14 PM
#99
Posts: 85
Some guys prefer to deny some stats collected directly from Relic data, by a guy who is well known here.
But there is no problem to trust a guy we don't know at all, with stats with no proof, no reliable method. This guys must be right since he says soviet OP
How INSANE is that?
But there is no problem to trust a guy we don't know at all, with stats with no proof, no reliable method. This guys must be right since he says soviet OP
How INSANE is that?
16 May 2015, 13:47 PM
#100
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OP data are wrong or false.
And this is not how you balance a game, ask Blizzard about SC2.
If you listen Germans they only have craps units, blob of volks/Panzerfusilier with vet5, panther, stuka, KT, Panzer II yea it's so bad... jeez
Not necessarily, they're just different.
And why do you mention some random OKW units now is beyond my comprehension.
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