Panzer IV Medium tank - Fastest Build?

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 19:55 PMdasheepeh

try luftwaffe doctrine for additional 50fuel

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 19:07 PMHighfiveeeee

If I aim for a P4 I usually build 4 Grens + Mortar, Skip T2 against USF if I am sure that no M20 will arrive and go for T3. The P4 will arrive after about 9-12 minutes.
But this strat is very risky as you have no counter against any light vehicles until you get your tank.
If everything goes as planned you can rumble your enemy pretty good.
But it's a must to get up T2 as soon as possible after your P4 because you need reliable AT units.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 20:36 PMAerohank

This is your best bet if you want a p4 as soon as possible.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:09 PMturbotortoise

could a command tank be quicker? or is the CP cost too high?

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:22 PMiceman

Just tried the luftwaffe doctrine, good thought in theory... its almost your just stuck with just few doctrines to make up for not getting out a PIV, which seem like they come out to late..

So question is, why even have a PIV option if its almost useless for the time frame it comes out... weird to me

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:22 PMiceman

So question is, why even have a PIV option if its almost useless for the time frame it comes out... weird to me

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:52 PMCardboard Tank

I think the Panzer IV can´t be rushed reliably any longer.

It´s good for forcing the Allied player to invest on anti tank. It´s also good to kill off infantry while the Soviet player is saving for the inevitable T-34/85 or IS-2. You can punish the Soviet call in meta in a short time window and hopefully collect some vet. The Panzer IV only becomes reliable vs vehicles at vet2 imo. But if the Soviet player then finally has his T-34/85 or IS-2 and you are stuck with only Panzer IVs and no Paks, you are going to lose.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:47 PMMr. Someguy

Yet it's the best stock medium tank in the game.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:58 PMdasheepeh

Thats why you build Paks afterwards you genius. The best AT gun in the game.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:39 PMturbotortoise

there was a time when you could build 2 mg's and a sniper, and go straight to a p4 before a soviet player could have a t34/zis out (smoke and blitz just laughed at it anyways). add a gren squad if you felt morally obliged not to float, and then add a pgren squad after your second p4 just to add insult to injury... it was bad.

:3

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2015, 22:47 PMMr. Someguy

Yet it's the best stock medium tank in the game.