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Relic, you gonna fix 120mm, or not?

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26 Apr 2015, 16:02 PM
#141
avatar of Highfiveeeee

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I don't get why every mortar dies when having 1 man left, but the best non HT mortar in the game can get away with it and even has a 6 man squad. You know how hard it is to kill this thing?

If I somehow manage to do so, the 120mm is gold in my eyes. I would even savrifice a gren squad with only 3 men left to get this thing.

26 Apr 2015, 16:38 PM
#142
avatar of austerlitz

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I once stole a 120 mm from sov guy.Put it near OKW base for cover under a mg.
USF teammate of soviet was cursing him throughout as his rifles started feeling the heat.
But thats abt it,ur NEVER going to steal it more or less against a serious opponent.Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper.
26 Apr 2015, 17:02 PM
#143
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I don't get why every mortar dies when having 1 man left, but the best non HT mortar in the game can get away with it and even has a 6 man squad. You know how hard it is to kill this thing?

If I somehow manage to do so, the 120mm is gold in my eyes. I would even savrifice a gren squad with only 3 men left to get this thing.



Exactly.
26 Apr 2015, 17:06 PM
#144
avatar of YouGetGot

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Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper.


What kills me about that thing is the retreat speed and movement speed. Didn't it weigh like 600 pounds (all in) with 35 pound rounds?

How can the retreating squad outrun a Gren squad? It should move much slower.

It's high reward but it has to be higher risk - and the unit should be left if 4 models die.
26 Apr 2015, 18:52 PM
#145
avatar of Katitof

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What kills me about that thing is the retreat speed and movement speed. Didn't it weigh like 600 pounds (all in) with 35 pound rounds?

How can the retreating squad outrun a Gren squad? It should move much slower.

It's high reward but it has to be higher risk - and the unit should be left if 4 models die.


I can push a car that weight 500-600 KG easily.

Running with full barrow also isn't something impossible for average joe.

Wheel is such a great invention.
26 Apr 2015, 20:26 PM
#146
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Wheels are OP

This is why the Maxim is better than the MG42

This is why Kubelwagens and WC51s are so good


Relic are wheel fan boys
26 Apr 2015, 20:30 PM
#147
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 18:52 PMKatitof


I can push a car that weight 500-600 KG easily.

Running with full barrow also isn't something impossible for average joe.

Wheel is such a great invention.


lol do you seriously think pounds = kg
26 Apr 2015, 20:39 PM
#148
avatar of Katitof

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lol do you seriously think pounds = kg


Pound is a unit of weight.

Kg is a unit of weight.

Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.

Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.

You are a moron.
26 Apr 2015, 21:53 PM
#149
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I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T
26 Apr 2015, 23:06 PM
#150
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 20:39 PMKatitof


Pound is a unit of weight.

Kg is a unit of weight.

Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.

Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.

You are a moron.


How does this have any baring on what I said.

26 Apr 2015, 23:14 PM
#151
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How does this have any baring on what I said.



Since we're talking weight here, I'd say what you say have none of it.
26 Apr 2015, 23:34 PM
#152
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I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T


Now this is a post, not people arguing about weight measurement units. I don't think relic changes precision strike, and to be honest it's very dumb to give it to Soviets because Axis units already have fewer models. If these changes are to be made, it's gonna need price reduction, like 340 or something.
26 Apr 2015, 23:56 PM
#153
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 20:39 PMKatitof


Pound is a unit of weight.

Kg is a unit of weight.

Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.

Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.

You are a moron.


They're units of mass actually. Weight is measured in Newtons.

;)
27 Apr 2015, 00:11 AM
#154
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 23:34 PMRMMLz


Now this is a post, not people arguing about weight measurement units. I don't think relic changes precision strike, and to be honest it's very dumb to give it to Soviets because Axis units already have fewer models. If these changes are to be made, it's gonna need price reduction, like 340 or something.

Mostly this I was going to add that I agree with Lemon completely, but the price should be lowered to around 360 manpower. Despite such nerfs 400 manpower would be to expensive. But it would still be very powerful and would still allow you to skip t2 so its pretty powerful in that regard. 360 manpower seems like a fair price.
27 Apr 2015, 01:23 AM
#155
avatar of Arclyte

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I can't remember the last time I had a vet 3 120mm, but I see vet 3 wehrmacht mortars in nearly every game

It's been nerfed enough. I have a hard time justifying nerfing this doctrinal unit (present on only one viable commander) when the wehrmacht have a mortar that literally has 3x the rate of fire, and OKW have the stuka, which deletes any garrisons and setup teams

I'm not really attached to precision strike, but if anyone has a better vet ability in mind that isn't on the level of loltripwires I'm all ears
27 Apr 2015, 02:23 AM
#156
avatar of Aladdin

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I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T


I agree, that would be a great change to it.
27 Apr 2015, 02:24 AM
#157
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So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?
27 Apr 2015, 02:35 AM
#158
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 02:24 AMAladdin
So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?
Pretty sure you can't
27 Apr 2015, 04:55 AM
#159
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 02:24 AMAladdin
So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?

No, you need at least two men if you want to get it and at least 4 men to keep the other squad alive with 1 man left.
27 Apr 2015, 06:31 AM
#160
avatar of Aladdin

Posts: 959

So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?



No, you need at least two men if you want to get it and at least 4 men to keep the other squad alive with 1 man left.


Then that just doesn't makes sense, and it's a BUG which needs to be fixed. There is no logic in that
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