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T34/76 should get a slight buff

Should T34/76 get a slight buff?
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3 Apr 2015, 21:51 PM
#1
avatar of pussyking
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Maybe T34/76 should get a slight buff becouse it dies too quickly. Maybe a health increase like 222. T34 should get a armor upgrade so it stands a chance against axis armor. Its the best tank ever made, it needs some love.
3 Apr 2015, 21:53 PM
#2
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

It needs more accuracy againts infantry, it misses way too much compared to the PIV and sherman which cost very similar.
3 Apr 2015, 21:54 PM
#3
avatar of Unshavenbackman

Posts: 680

jump backJump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 21:53 PMBurts
It needs more accuracy againts infantry, it misses way too much compared to the PIV and sherman which cost very similar.


+1
3 Apr 2015, 21:57 PM
#4
avatar of pussyking
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 21:53 PMBurts
It needs more accuracy againts infantry, it misses way too much compared to the PIV and sherman which cost very similar.


+1

Not to mention P4 can be upgraded with a LMG which increases its AI effectiveness

T34 definitely needs some love.
3 Apr 2015, 22:06 PM
#5
avatar of Ulaire Minya

Posts: 372

Considering with the new patch the T-34 has the ability to kill gren squads outright...
3 Apr 2015, 22:10 PM
#6
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
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Posts: 2470

i think the simplest thing is to make the main gun more accurate against infantry. armour would work but it would throw off the IV vs 34/76 matchup while having almost no effect against heavies.

it is a piece of shit right now though
3 Apr 2015, 22:12 PM
#7
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

Considering with the new patch the T-34 has the ability to kill gren squads outright...
What are you talking about? Neither grens or T34s were touched in the patch.
3 Apr 2015, 22:13 PM
#8
avatar of Alexzandvar

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The T34/76 has almost exactly the same accuracy as the PIV. We don't need to return to the days of the T34 sniping squads.

The Sherman has the best accuracy out of all of the basic mediums, but it deserves it IMO as it has less AoE than the others.

A buff would need to mean it's cost be raised.
3 Apr 2015, 22:15 PM
#9
avatar of Cardboard Tank

Posts: 978

Maybe T34/76 should get a slight buff becouse it dies too quickly. Maybe a health increase like 222.
No, it has about the same survivability as the P4. It would fuck up the balance between those two. A T-34/76 then as a consequence beating a long-barrel P4 would be utterly ridiculous.

T34 should get a armor upgrade so it stands a chance against axis armor.
It´s not meant to fight tanks. Nor was it good against tanks past 1942.

Its the best tank ever made, it needs some love.
Not per vehicle. On a single vehicle basis the T-34 was garbage. Especially the T-34/76. The commander had to load and was totally overwhelmed by fulfilling two tasks, the vision was poor and every Axis anti tank weapon by the time this game is set could easily defeat it.

It was the most lost tank of the war. Some 40.000+ were lost. That´s how survivable it was.

Its only saving grace was the availability through numbers and maintenance.

It should be a numerous tank not a quality tank.

Believe it or not: German tanks in this game are a shadow of what they were on a vehicle basis. You have Tigers that can barely fight T-34/85s and Panthers outright losing head on assaults. KTs being finished off frontally is only the icing on the cake. Yet you scream for even better performance for Soviets. Better delete Germans out of the game then.
3 Apr 2015, 22:15 PM
#10
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

The T34/76 has almost exactly the same accuracy as the PIV. We don't need to return to the days of the T34 sniping squads.

The Sherman has the best accuracy out of all of the basic mediums, but it deserves it IMO as it has less AoE than the others.

A buff would need to mean it's cost be raised.



Stop talking nonsense. The PIV has significantly lower scatter than the t-34/76 6.9 vs 5.7 i believe.

The sherman has the highest AOE of all the tanks with HE rounds....


Sherman with AP rounds and no 0.50 cal is better againts infantry than the t-34/76...
3 Apr 2015, 22:17 PM
#11
avatar of pussyking
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The T34/76 has almost exactly the same accuracy as the PIV. We don't need to return to the days of the T34 sniping squads.

The Sherman has the best accuracy out of all of the basic mediums, but it deserves it IMO as it has less AoE than the others.

A buff would need to mean it's cost be raised.


I dont say it needs a buff, I say it needs a SLIGHT buff like a little bit of armor increase.

T34/76 is a piece of junk right now, it needs some love.
3 Apr 2015, 22:21 PM
#12
avatar of Alexzandvar

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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 22:15 PMBurts



Stop talking nonsense. The PIV has significantly lower scatter than the t-34/76 6.9 vs 5.7 i believe.

The sherman has the highest AOE of all the tanks with HE rounds....


Sherman with AP rounds and no 0.50 cal is better againts infantry than the t-34/76...


PIV:

Scatter angle:
7.5
Scatter distance:
6.4
AoE radius:
2.5
AoE far:
1.875
AoE mid:
1.25
AoE near:
0.75
T34:
Scatter angle:
7.5
Scatter distance:
6.9
AoE radius:
2.5
AoE far:
1.875
AoE mid:
1.25
AoE near:
0.625
Sherman 75 standard AP:
Scatter angle:
6.0
Scatter distance:
6.2
AoE radius:
2.0
AoE far:
1.5
AoE mid:
1.0
AoE near:
0.5

T34/76 is a piece of junk right now, it needs some love.


That's okay, but it's cost would need to be raised. The PIV is 25 fuel more expensive because it's a better tank.
3 Apr 2015, 22:25 PM
#13
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702



PIV:

Scatter angle:
7.5
Scatter distance:
6.4
AoE radius:
2.5
AoE far:
1.875
AoE mid:
1.25
AoE near:
0.75
T34:
Scatter angle:
7.5
Scatter distance:
6.9
AoE radius:
2.5
AoE far:
1.875
AoE mid:
1.25
AoE near:
0.625
Sherman 75 standard AP:
Scatter angle:
6.0
Scatter distance:
6.2
AoE radius:
2.0
AoE far:
1.5
AoE mid:
1.0
AoE near:
0.5



That's okay, but it's cost would need to be raised. The PIV is 25 fuel more expensive because it's a better tank.



Alright, apparently i was wrong,sorry.
3 Apr 2015, 22:30 PM
#14
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

It needs the reload it had before it was nerfed (much faster firing, T-34 was actually usefull)
3 Apr 2015, 22:34 PM
#15
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

It needs the reload it had before it was nerfed (much faster firing, T-34 was actually usefull)


Yeah it's kinda weird how the KV1 out DPS's it pretty hard.
3 Apr 2015, 23:04 PM
#16
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

Either give it the reload it used to have or give it better MGs.

KV1/old T34: 5.75
T34: 6.75

I'll rather have a bit better sustain DPS rather than random hitting wipes btw (this means better mgs)
3 Apr 2015, 23:11 PM
#17
avatar of turbotortoise

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I want them to drift on all surfaces.
3 Apr 2015, 23:21 PM
#18
avatar of Aerohank

Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1

As an avid T34/76 user, I think they are fine.

Now, they don't compare well to call-in tanks because of teching costs (first 2 T34/76 are more expensive to get than 2 T34/85s), but this is true for all stock tanks.
3 Apr 2015, 23:58 PM
#19
avatar of RMMLz

Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1

I think they need some kind of buff, but really don't know in what direction. Maybe scale better for late game. Something like Vet 3 Increased penetration. If you rush for a t34 and you get your enemy by surprise, they perform very well. But as the game goes on, they become obsolete.
4 Apr 2015, 00:05 AM
#20
avatar of Seeker

Posts: 83

jump backJump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 23:58 PMRMMLz
I think they need some kind of buff, but really don't know in what direction. Maybe scale better for late game. Something like Vet 3 Increased penetration. If you rush for a t34 and you get your enemy by surprise, they perform very well. But as the game goes on, they become obsolete.


Hmm, perhaps at vet 3 they get the 85mm gun, this would increase usefulness while not making t34/85 doctrines useless, you will need to get it up, whereas callin will be instant and scale better with its own vet.
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