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29 Mar 2015, 03:02 AM
#81
avatar of turbotortoise

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I find the fact that they say we can't grand DLC Commanders specifically in mods for free even though their war spoils system already grants free DLC commanders. Kind of contradicting....


they're words of fear. it's a we play by their rules, or else, sort of deal. at least that's how i read it.
29 Mar 2015, 13:41 PM
#82
avatar of Chigurh

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Mar 2015, 21:49 PMRMMLz


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I think they are not confident with their game. They think that if people have access to core files and can actually make a better game than them, they will lose credibility.
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KO comment.
30 Mar 2015, 15:07 PM
#83
avatar of ZombiFrancis

Posts: 2742

Relic just needs to stop pretending like everyone doesn't already know they squandered millions of dollars in funding to mod the Essence engine for the third time.

It's taken literally hours for the community to make sweeping changes to the engine with the crippled tools they've provided and I can tell you there's zero justification that the funding they've used over time has gone towards anything tangible.

This is why I am pretty sure that there's so much legal tone to this. There's AAA funding at work in this game and nothing/very little to show for it.
30 Mar 2015, 18:32 PM
#84
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053

There's AAA funding at work in this game and nothing/very little to show for it.


When i saw the thread saying CoH2 sold X million copies and i look back at CoH2, i wonder where the hell the money from the sales went.
30 Mar 2015, 20:40 PM
#85
avatar of shpongle

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I'm proud to say I'm probably partly responsible for this section:

"Community created mods cannot grant all pay-for DLC content to users of said mod.

Mods cannot grant an entire list of DLC content within one specific category (e.g. a mod cannot grant all USF commanders, or all OKW commanders)."

I made the mod that gave all commanders for free including non-released ones :D
30 Mar 2015, 21:01 PM
#86
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053

I'm proud to say I'm probably partly responsible for this section:

"Community created mods cannot grant all pay-for DLC content to users of said mod.

Mods cannot grant an entire list of DLC content within one specific category (e.g. a mod cannot grant all USF commanders, or all OKW commanders)."

I made the mod that gave all commanders for free including non-released ones :D


I still have that mod and i thoroughly enjoy the leaked commanders...

But how would making mods that include DLC content be different than your mod which gives CLOSED ACCESS YOU WOULD 99% USE AGAINST AI? Relic is being pretty insecure in this situation...

Joining a random lobby would put you at a disadvantage compared to the host who controls all the options. I dont know how unofficial mods can create the reaction that it puts a player at a disadvantage... Certainly does not sound like the current official game we have Kappa...
30 Mar 2015, 21:03 PM
#87
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30 Mar 2015, 21:17 PM
#88
avatar of MilkaCow

Posts: 577



How does USF and OKW getting new commanders have anything to do with getting stuff fixed? The balance, bug, and development departments are all different.


That's neither true nor false. The balance team were (are?) also the ones that fix the bugs which are just lines in the code. Like the T34 having a one second too short reload and such. There is also a rumored QA team - I won't say anything more about this, but looking at the credits tells a lot. Then there is the development team, which is different from them all. Yet what is the problem? All of them require engineers to do certain things that go beyond the scale of a designers knowledge - so even though the front is different, the back isn't, which means heavy focus on one of those elements can also hinder the others, simply due to the bottleneck.

Regarding the "No mods that release DLC content for free". Not really surprised. DLC content is still paid-for content. The fact you have a chance to unlock it it for free via War-Spoils does not mean it suddenly is free. If the mod does nothing but unlocking the DLC content then it adds nothing to the game. I am not even sure if it would qualify as a mod in the standard definition, as it goes against the ethics and ideas of modding.

I honestly found the EULA rather weird in other aspects like "Mods cannot include imagery or material that is offensive to Relic Entertainment or the Company of Heroes Brand (as determined in our sole discretion)" offering a free out of Jail card for any reasoning to ban a mod. On the other hand the whole EULA is presented in a way that would most likely not prevail in court. It's released after creation already happened and it's only visible online for legacy content and users. So basically anything prior to this should be unaffected by the EULA, at least where I'm living. :o
30 Mar 2015, 21:49 PM
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^^ ^^

Sounds about right :)
20 Jun 2015, 20:48 PM
#90
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Posts: 179



not happening


Not with that attitude!
20 Jun 2015, 21:11 PM
#91
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Not with that attitude!


Don't necro! It has taken you three months to respond.. If you feel strongly, then start a new thread. Thanks.

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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
Last Thursday, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
Last Thursday, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
Last Thursday, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
Last Thursday, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
Last Thursday, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
Last Tuesday, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
Last Monday, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
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