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It's the first choice of OKW players, because raketenwerfers don't cut it and the JP4 doesn't do well against an IS2, which you see in about 99% of the games.
I'll try again.
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Fixed that for you. They should remove this game braking doc from the game. (Shock Frontline)
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And if you seriously want its fuel cost reduced, you're the biased one here.
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Sounds like you never played 1v1 before. I admit, Panther WAS a problem for 3v3 and 4v4 games but that was before time. They nurfed it, increase its cost, made it shit. Finaly, they cahnged its stats in order to at least it somewhat deserves the huge amount of resources you invest to build it. And now you are comming and say it's to strong?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Have you ever played against OKW in 1v1 without using IS-2?
Have you ever played against OKW in 1v1?
Have you ever played 1v1?
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Have you ever played against OKW in 1v1 without using IS-2?
Have you ever played against OKW in 1v1?
Have you ever played 1v1?
I'll try again.
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Have you ever played this game?
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He didn't because he is writing everywhere on this forum and on official forums also. So I suspect he has no time for playing - which is quite obvious if you read his posts carefully.
I'll try again.
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Haha wow really? Is he getting paid or something?
Honestly I would pay him more if he stopped posting.
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He didn't because he is writing everywhere on this forum and on official forums also. So I suspect he has no time for playing - which is quite obvious if you read his posts carefully.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I'm quite positive you confused me with yourself here lil boy.
Its also quite adorable to see old troll already hugging new troll, showing him all the bridges and how to spit bile, always heartwarming to see the species take care of their young.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I'm quite positive you confused me with yourself here lil boy.
Its also quite adorable to see old troll already hugging new troll, showing him all the bridges and how to spit bile, always heartwarming to see the species take care of their young.
Now back on topic, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Ost panther stats, blitz was always a problem and will be a problem as long as it provides raw speed bonus on top of additional rec acc benefits not to mention acceleration, which ensures that its intended weakness-getting flanked and rear armor hits-is pretty much impossible to exploit because of its speed.
When it comes to OKW panther, its great strength comes from timing-there is absolutely nothing on field that would contest it or even prove to be a lethal danger.
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The first OKW Panther costs 255 fuel (80+175), the first Sherman costs 190 (110+80) fuel. So that's a 65 fuel difference, so of course there is going to be a gap in preformance.
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Veterancy. Abilities. Most Jacksons on the field won't live to see Vet 3 if they simply don't penetrate. I have never seen in 700 hours a Vet 3 Jackson slaying Tigers or Panthers all that happened was that Tiger or Panther simply backed off with Blitz and or smoke. SU 85 on average requires 8 shots to destroy a Panther at maximum range, Panther kills it in 3. Jackson requires 6, Panther kills it in 3. And not to mention that is RNG when there is no RNG for Panther, only sure penetration.
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Wut? In your mod or what? Or you smoked somthin good? Give me some dude.
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Besides the usual forum war, i'm delight by the amount of post on so little time this thread got.
PD: we have a new/old troll now here?
I don't usually play as USF but those numbers looks like crap. USF start with 10 fuel (?), LT cost 50, cpt cost 80, Major is 90 (?) and finally yes the Sherman is 110. I'll add 10 (ambulance) and even 25+ for nades/bars.
-10 + 50/80 + 90 + 110 + (10/25/35) + (20 if M20) =
>Fastest rush LT no ambulance, no upgrades: 50+90+110-10 = 240f
>>>Fast rush LT ambulance+nades/bar, LT: 50+35+90+110-10 = 275f
>>>>>M20 LT, ambulance, nade/bar: 50+20+35+90+110-10 = 295f
>Fastest rush Cpt, no ambulance, no upgrades: 80+90+110-10 = 270f
>>>Cpt and ambulance + nade/bar: 80+90+110+35-10 = 305f
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I included just the respective only Tier costs for the unit. T3 for OKW and USF is 80 fuel to get you a major/schwer.
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