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eliw00d
3 Nov 2015, 16:21 PM
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Well, the M4A3(76)W has been in the game since shortly before the WFA DLC, as the M4C, and we have been making use of it since. So, definitely! :)

An aside: Too bad Relic didn't model an actual M4A2(76)W for the M4C. The differences were minor, but still. :(

Cavalry Riflemen are something made up for CoH2, and nothing new asset wise. However, while Armored and Cavalry Reconnaissance units mostly kept to their vehicles, we will also have a dismounted option where they will have some support weapons and rifle squads.

We will definitely have Ranger Rifle Companies. They had a lot of mortars, submachine-guns, and bazookas in the Battalion HQ, so they will be much different from your standard Rifle Company.

Air support is likely something we will hold off on for after the first release.
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Contrivance
3 Nov 2015, 16:30 PM
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More detail on the Cavalry Reconnaissance units...

By 1944, the standard was a platoon with three M8 Greyhounds and six Jeeps, as well as three M2 60mm mortars carried by the Jeeps to mainly provide smoke and fire support for withdrawals under fire. The Jeeps spread out to cover ground, and the armoured cars added a little firepower to help them out.

The dismounted variety happened because not all terrain was vehicle friendly, and sometimes the situation called for them to fight. So they pulled the machine-guns off their Jeeps and Greyhounds and left their vehicles behind, giving you an infantry scout platoon with M1919 light machine-guns, M2 .50cals, Bazookas, and M2 60mm mortars as optional firepower.
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J1N6666
3 Nov 2015, 18:57 PM
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Oh god, my pants....

edit: oh btw, is there any distinction between the Nazi SS divisions compared to the wermaket? I remember in vCOH that PE was the waffen SS or something and they had a totally mechanized teir list.
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Contrivance
3 Nov 2015, 19:42 PM
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Waffen-SS forces are planned. For the most part, they were organized exactly like Heer (regular army) units. Almost all of the Waffen-SS Divisions were Panzer or Panzergrenadier, with only a few outliers, so motorized and mechanized forces will be the norm.

The main differences only kick in above the Division level, where you'll find the Corps and Army level support units. In the case of the Waffen-SS, it stopped at Corps level, so the Army level support units that the Heer have are missing altogether. For example, Heavy Tank-hunter units, such as PaK43, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, and Elefant, are not available as SS units. There's a few others that also have no SS equivalent.

What you mainly get by picking Waffen-SS over Heer is a series of passive and active effects that make them more determined and willing to accept casualties, but at a higher purchase price per unit.

EDIT: And spiffy camouflage for your troops, of course. The Waffen-SS were the ones that used the camo smocks the Obersoldaten wear, as well as the ones the CoH1 Stormtroopers had.
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I<3CoH
5 Nov 2015, 12:52 PM
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Wouldnt anything related to the Waffen-SS be quite problematic to implement? Afaik things like that are not allowed on the steam workshop
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Contrivance
5 Nov 2015, 13:14 PM
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AFAIK the only requirement is that we obey the various European laws regarding Nazi sybmolism, so we've made sure to not add in any such symbols. As was shown in an earlier screenshot, our Waffen-SS symbol is a generic black divisional shield without any runic symbols that would identify it as a specific SS division; no SS runes to be found. We've also removed the swastika from the Luftwaffe eagle and Kriegsmarine eagle emblems. I might later draw in an iron cross for those eagles, but for now they'll awkwardly be clutching nothing in their talons :)

That should be sufficient, since CoH1 did have SS show up in a campaign mission, and stated your enemy was from an SS division during the briefing.

As long as we handle it tastefully it should be fine. If this isn't enough, we'll remove them.
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J1N6666
5 Nov 2015, 18:50 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Nov 2015, 13:14 PMContrivance
AFAIK the only requirement is that we obey the various European laws regarding Nazi sybmolism, so we've made sure to not add in any such symbols. As was shown in an earlier screenshot, our Waffen-SS symbol is a generic black divisional shield without any runic symbols that would identify it as a specific SS division; no SS runes to be found. We've also removed the swastika from the Luftwaffe eagle and Kriegsmarine eagle emblems. I might later draw in an iron cross for those eagles, but for now they'll awkwardly be clutching nothing in their talons :)

That should be sufficient, since CoH1 did have SS show up in a campaign mission, and stated your enemy was from an SS division during the briefing.

As long as we handle it tastefully it should be fine. If this isn't enough, we'll remove them.


Ayyyy lmao.

When can we expect Hitler youth?

#banned
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Contrivance
5 Nov 2015, 19:06 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Nov 2015, 18:50 PMJ1N6666


Ayyyy lmao.

When can we expect Hitler youth?

#banned


Most likely never :)
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nigo
24 Nov 2015, 15:57 PM
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Any news?
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eliw00d
24 Nov 2015, 19:21 PM
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As many of you know, the Army Builder UI has been our main focus lately. We do not have anything new to show, as we are still working through some iterations. However, I can say that we remade the UI for deploying units after some feedback from you guys and thoughts of our own.

It is now built into the Tactical Map, which means that the Platoons you have purchased will show up on the right-hand side. You can click on a Platoon, and then click on a Section to deploy them. Since you are already in the Tactical Map, you can select these newly deployed Sections and give them commands from there.

It basically means that deployment will never get in the way of the normal UI and is only a button press away.

I am not sure how many people actually use the Tactical Map, but it should see more use in Fortress Europe.
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J1N6666
24 Nov 2015, 23:38 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 19:21 PMeliw00d
As many of you know, the Army Builder UI has been our main focus lately. We do not have anything new to show, as we are still working through some iterations. However, I can say that we remade the UI for deploying units after some feedback from you guys and thoughts of our own.

It is now built into the Tactical Map, which means that the Platoons you have purchased will show up on the right-hand side. You can click on a Platoon, and then click on a Section to deploy them. Since you are already in the Tactical Map, you can select these newly deployed Sections and give them commands from there.

It basically means that deployment will never get in the way of the normal UI and is only a button press away.

I am not sure how many people actually use the Tactical Map, but it should see more use in Fortress Europe.


If it was in normal vCOH i wouldnt mind, but omfg the tact map in COH2 looks utterly disgusting.
So im just wondering if there's any visual changes there, to make it not so... disgusting.
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eliw00d
25 Nov 2015, 01:23 AM
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It is not a priority, but definitely something we can look into. The left and right sides, for sure, will be different.
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eliw00d
3 Dec 2015, 02:28 AM
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Anybody know enough Russian to look over these and see if we are on the right track so far?

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170200	**SOVIET PLATOONS**
170201	Zenitnaya Pushka Vzvoda
170202	Anti-aircraft Gun Platoon
170203	
170204	Protivo-tankovaya Pushka Vzvoda
170205	Anti-tank Gun Platoon
170206	
170207	Protivo-tankovaya Ruzhya Vzvoda
170208	Anti-tank Rifle Platoon
170209	
170210	Razvedka Vzvoda
170211	Reconnaissance Platoon
170212	
170213	Gvardeyskaya Tyazhelaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170214	Guards Heavy Self-propelled Artillery Company
170215	
170216	Gvardeyskaya Tyazhelaya Tankovaya Rota
170217	Guards Heavy Tank Company
170218	
170219	Gvardeyskaya Legkaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170220	Guards Light Self-propelled Artillery Company
170221	
170222	Gvardeyskaya Legkaya Tankovaya Rota
170223	Guards Light Tank Company
170224	
170225	Gvardeyskaya Srednyaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170226	Guards Medium Self-propelled Artillery Company
170227	
170228	Gvardeyskaya Srednyaya Tankovaya Rota
170229	Guards Medium Tank Company
170230	
170231	Gvardeyskaya Strelkovaya Vzvoda
170232	Guards Rifle Platoon
170233	
170234	Gvardeyskaya ? Vzvoda
170235	Guards Submachine-gun Platoon
170236	
170237	Minometnogo Vzvoda
170238	Mortar Platoon
170239	
170240	Tyazhelaya Minometnogo Vzvoda
170241	Heavy Mortar Platoon
170242	
170243	Tyazhelaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170244	Heavy Self-propelled Artillery Company
170245	
170246	Tyazhelaya Tankovaya Rota
170247	Heavy Tank Company
170248	
170249	Polkovaya Pushka Vzvoda
170250	Regimental Gun Platoon
170251	
170252	Legkaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170253	Light Self-propelled Artillery Company
170254	
170255	Legkaya Tankovaya Rota
170256	Light Tank Company
170257	
170258	Pulemetnogo Vzvoda
170259	Machine-gun Platoon
170260	
170261	Srednyaya Samokhodnaya Artilleriyskaya Rota
170262	Medium Self-propelled Artillery Company
170263	
170264	Srednyaya Tankovaya Rota
170265	Medium Tank Company
170266	
170267	Strelkovaya Shtab Rota
170268	Rifle Company Headquarters
170269	
170270	Strelkovaya Vzvoda
170271	Rifle Platoon
170272	
170273	? Vzvoda
170274	Submachine-gun Platoon
170275	
170276	Sapernaya Vzvoda
170277	Sapper Platoon
170278	
170279	Shtrafnaya Vzvoda
170280	Penal Platoon
170281	
170282	Ognemetnaya Tankovaya Rota
170283	Flamethrower Tank Company
170284


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eliw00d
3 Dec 2015, 15:12 PM
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I have created a Google Doc which I will be adding to, so please comment on any errors or changes you feel need to be made. Thanks!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rgIph97fReWIEcrAakI_gyXabRSSQmI1eFosUDYOk6Q/edit?usp=sharing
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newvan
3 Dec 2015, 15:41 PM
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I will take a look at #12 post, but it will take some time.
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eliw00d
3 Dec 2015, 15:44 PM
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Thank you, newvan! Take a look at the Google Doc as well, you can add comments on any lines you think need changing.
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Contrivance
3 Dec 2015, 20:46 PM
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Going into this I thought German unit names would be the longest, but Russian has proven to be the current champion for length!

Unless you make up stuff like Fallschirmpanzerfliegerabwehrrakatenwerferbatterie
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Swift
4 Dec 2015, 17:49 PM
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Invissed a post. Come on now, I know it's the internet, but common sense please!
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J1N6666
17 Dec 2015, 22:40 PM
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Any news?
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