Jaeger Infantry

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 06:13 AMturbotortoise

also, do they use the garrand? or are they equipped with the m1? not the snipers.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 06:19 AMAlexzandvar

The Pathfinder uses the scoped garrand, which is weird because wasn't often used as a sniper rifle.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 06:22 AMturbotortoise

yeah i was sure the 2 snipers in the squad used that, which... i thought was weird. i expect a springfield but, maybe that's just sterotypical via wargames, films etc. but yeah, i feel like the other 2 are armed with something else, or perhaps just don't get the headshot numbers applied to them and they all have the scoped garrand.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 01:04 AMcomm_ash

The fact that they are able to do so is quite amazing for a high DPS unit (when stationary they have great damage at all ranges). I honestly think that partisans should be the only infantry that can spawn behind enemy lines from buildings. Jaegers, and stormtroopers can get a cost reduction and be able to spawn only spawn from buildings in friendly territory, while falls can either do that or get a further price decrease to their unit price and spawn from off map. It really doesn't make sense to me why I can call in a no-micro flank which can destroy a well defended early game position in a matter of seconds (falls).

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 01:04 AMcomm_ash

The fact that they are able to do so is quite amazing for a high DPS unit (when stationary they have great damage at all ranges). I honestly think that partisans should be the only infantry that can spawn behind enemy lines from buildings. Jaegers, and stormtroopers can get a cost reduction and be able to spawn only spawn from buildings in friendly territory, while falls can either do that or get a further price decrease to their unit price and spawn from off map. It really doesn't make sense to me why I can call in a no-micro flank which can destroy a well defended early game position in a matter of seconds (falls).

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2015, 15:53 PMImagelessbean

I agree with this. OKW spawning behind the lines is a stupid mechanic.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 00:00 AMAlexzandvar

JLI and Stormtroopers entire point is to spawn behind the lines, and neither is nearly as powerful DPS wise as Fallsch are.

Fallsch coming in by air drop would make a million times more sense.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2015, 22:02 PMLemonJuice

unfortunately thats not how it usually turns out because you have no control over wether or not the squad focuses one model at a time, or even if the g43 will target the lowest hp model.

also theyre garbage as frontline infantry because they do cost quite a bit to reinforce and dont necessarily kill infantry quickly.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 11:27 AMmedhood

b-b-b-b-but Falls spawning behind the lines is what makes them fun

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 10:46 AMAustralian Magic

They are designed to spawn behind the lines, but that's the case, they should not.
Upgrade Storms and they will melt crew weapons.
Jagerer also can melt them without any problems.

They only unit which fits this feature are partisants, because they are PARTISANTS, no highly trained and equipped soldiers who somehow get behind the lines, but normal people to decided to fight. None other units should spawn behind line. In your territory? Yes but on behind line? Never.

And they are nowhere near as powerful as other units.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 14:17 PMWingZero

I dont know why Relic even try to make JLI come out of buildings for OKW. The Army already has Falls does it really need another infantry squad coming out behind enemy lines? I wish Pathfinders and Paras did this to make it "fair".

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 14:17 PMWingZero

I dont know why Relic even try to make JLI come out of buildings for OKW. The Army already has Falls does it really need another infantry squad coming out behind enemy lines? I wish Pathfinders and Paras did this to make it "fair".

Not to mention they are better than Pathfinders too. I agree that Pathfinders should come from buildings.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 14:23 PMAlexzandvar

1. You can't have JLI or Fallsch at the same time, they are in different commanders
2. Pathfinders are to fragile to be useful coming out of buildings
3. Para's come in by airplane, which can allow them to be dropped behind enemy lines, Fallsch should work the same way.



They are literally equal with Paths being slightly better till JLI go beyond Vet 3.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 14:11 PMAlexzandvar

Stormtroopers need a 90 muni upgrade to even have a CHANCE to get rid of a support weapon, one that you can just retreat fairly quickly anyway. Storms with StG 44's don't have nearly the amount of long - mid range dps Fallsch do.

Jagear cannot either, a maxim or mortar with full health won't have a problem pulling back unless you sit there and get naded.

Partisans spawning behind the line is fine, they need a buff. But you don't need to ruin the entire point of JLI and Storms when they are already vastly underused. They come in behind the lines to cause havoc and break up campers/support weapon spammers.

Fallsch just need to air drop instead of coming out of buildings so you can see them coming. But Fallsch need other reworks anyway like a survivability buff and better vet bonus's.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2015, 14:24 PMWingZero

Partisans are "fragile" too.

Spawn them hide behind building, upgrade, wipe.
But it's not even about wiping.

Spawning behind such powerful squads and forcing enemy to retreat his MGs, Mortars or ZiSes without any micro is just broken and has no justification except Partisants.