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Their dps actually got nerfed a while back. Yeah.
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If you are making any other unit you aren't trying. Get with the times.
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*Looks at Soviet base in the fog of war*
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"Oh my god... CE SPAM!!! *Surrender*, gg"
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And now the history repeats itself.
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Well, there was already quite some time since the game spawned a player so horribad that he made a "combat engies OP" thread.
And now the history repeats itself.
Come back when you've got less than a 10-1 post to game ratio and talk, perhaps. Your forum-warrior behaviour is not appreciated, especially if you insult a player better than you in the first place.
I'd say CEs are the best of the standard engineer units, not only for the cost and the explosives they lay but also for how well they work with the rest of the faction- M3s, forcing sweepers instead of flamers right from the get go from the enemy, all that. That being said, I don't think they're too good- it's more of pioneers being poor in comparison.
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It forces at least grin.
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Strummingbird I don't mean to insult anyone, but come on, CEs op?
It forces at least grin.
Did he call them OP? He didn't call them OP.
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Not op, but why pios cost 200 mp while CE cost 170 mp?
Due to pioneers being able to go toe to toe to conscripts in close combat.
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Due to pioneers being able to go toe to toe to conscripts in close combat.
Maybe in an older patch where the pioneers not only had better MP40s, but also Conscript accuracy at mid-long was even more abysmal than it is now, but unless you're distracting the cons and no one looks and shoots at the Pios they'll generally lose pretty badly and they bleed 25 MP per model. They are only really good at defending grens against the charge, but enemies can then shoot at mid-range while your pios only tickle them.
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I think Relic nerfed (or changed the rifle behavior) when Redwing became famous with his CE openings few months ago.
I don't believe that was the reason, but yes, CEs got nerfed version of mosins, they used to have same guns as conscripts, now they are only slightly less blind then RETs(RETs also have more flexibility as they can carry AT, scale somewhat for combat, build fighting positions).
Soviet units usually have great synergy while ost ones can work on their own.
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Due to pioneers being able to go toe to toe to conscripts in close combat.
If they lose a single model they won't be able to beat out cons unless your opponent gets really unlucky. Pio's either need demo charges/more utility like CE or a price reduction.
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If they lose a single model they won't be able to beat out cons unless your opponent gets really unlucky. Pio's either need demo charges/more utility like CE or a price reduction.
I'm not saying that pioneers will beat conscripts. Infact most of the time they will lose. But they can still win if they round a corner or something like that.
And they are definately fine. Ever played againts captainsprice pioneer flamer spam strat? That guy spams out like 4 flamers and blobs them like mad.
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That said, I think CEs are just fine. Demos however...should not be in this game in their current iteration, they are just too powerful and there is too limited counterplay.
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I think Relic nerfed (or changed the rifle behavior) when Redwing became famous with his CE openings few months ago.
The only thing I can remember is, they were mistakenly give Cons' Nagant rifle, and that made them kinda OP. They've fixed it.
They do have a lot of utility, but OP?? come one man.
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