Damn this balance
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I'd love to see T-34/85 being standard T3 vehicle and T-34/76 being a AI beast call in.
T-34/85 is about equal to PzIV. Not better.
Panther will quickly kill one of them and then run away to safety. Been there, done that. With a bit of luck you can even take them both out. Keep your front armour towards the enemy all the time.
"Quickly"? In what universe does the Panther kill a tank by itself "Quickly". Reloads on the Panthers:
OH PV: 6.5
OKW PV: 7.5
The T-34/85 is a tank hunter like the Panther (except with better AI). It doesn't even fulfill the same roll at the 76.
All a panther needs is greens and maybe a pak or a couple of shreks to support it, and a t34/85 won't be able to kill it, the only thing 85's reliable beat is ost t3
Uh, why are you not supporting your 85's as well? His Panther can't do shit to your infantry, while your 85's can fuck up his armor AND his infantry.
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Yeah lets ignore the fact that these units cost more. But the ost and su tier 3 share the same problem : No AT and callins are flat out better.
Lets also ignore the fact that unless you want to spam more then 4-5 of them the cost difference means only 30-50 second difference on hitting the field and nothing more.
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"Quickly"? In what universe does the Panther kill a tank by itself "Quickly". Reloads on the Panthers:
OH PV: 6.5
OKW PV: 7.5
The T-34/85 is a tank hunter like the Panther (except with better AI). It doesn't even fulfill the same roll at the 76.
Uh, why are you not supporting your 85's as well? His Panther can't do shit to your infantry, while your 85's can fuck up his armor AND his infantry.
T-34/85 tank hunter? Oh my. It can fight PzIV as equal and that's about it. Against Panther, if you manage to flank it with one of them then yes, you have a chance to knock it out, if you don't then it's GG T-34s. Play Soviets and something different than 3v3 at least once and then come and comment about the faction.
FYI Panther is pretty decent against infantry. Mounted MG makes wonders. This plus blitz crush.
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Lets also ignore the fact that unless you want to spam more then 4-5 of them the cost difference means only 30-50 second difference on hitting the field and nothing more.
Means shit one is more expensive and thus better but not by much. especially if you compare the p4 vs t-34 matchup to the p4 and 85 /e8 matchup. Do not change the subject tittitof the ost tier 3 has the same problem as the SU tier 3. which is the reason this game is currently pure callin meta.
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I'd love to see T-34/85 being standard T3 vehicle and T-34/76 being a AI beast call in.
T-34/85 is about equal to PzIV. Not better.
Panther will quickly kill one of them and then run away to safety. Been there, done that. With a bit of luck you can even take them both out. Keep your front armour towards the enemy all the time.
So you consider an unit that has 25 % more hp and penetration with only slightly less armour and dps to be equal tot he p4. dude test it out yourself a battle between a 85 and a p4 is 10/10 in favour for the 85.
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The argument about German T3 being nullified by the T-34-85's arrival is the exact same argument you could have about the Germans having the Panther non-doctrinal.
Not by a long shot. if a panther destroys the 85 then its task is done. if the 85 stomps out your tier 3 armour he will rampage through your army . This has always been the strength of the 85 and the e8 strong enough to be substitute heavy tank destroyers . remember that 2 85's have far more firepower then 1 tiger.
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T-34/85 tank hunter? Oh my. It can fight PzIV as equal and that's about it. Against Panther, if you manage to flank it with one of them then yes, you have a chance to knock it out, if you don't then it's GG T-34s. Play Soviets and something different than 3v3 at least once and then come and comment about the faction.
FYI Panther is pretty decent against infantry. Mounted MG makes wonders. This plus blitz crush.
I play Soviets a lot, and I know for a fact you need to support your tanks, but that goes for every faction. And yes the Panther can crush infantry, but you need to use attack to hit infantry, but it also makes the main gun fire and with the reload I'll be damned if I waste any shots.
Your continued accusation that I only play one faction has been disproved like a million times, cut it out.
The T-34/85 is a tank hunter, in classification. It has high health, a duo of them can easily hunt down a Panther can kill it, or with market target kill larger armor.
The argument about German T3 being nullified by the T-34-85's arrival is the exact same argument you could have about the Germans having the Panther non-doctrinal.
The Panther is a very expensive tank that requires teching, the T-34/85 is a call in.
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I was actually referring to Panther vs other non-doctrinal units. Typical.
Yeah, I was to.
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I play Soviets a lot, and I know for a fact you need to support your tanks, but that goes for every faction. And yes the Panther can crush infantry, but you need to use attack to hit infantry, but it also makes the main gun fire and with the reload I'll be damned if I waste any shots.
Your continued accusation that I only play one faction has been disproved like a million times, cut it out.
The T-34/85 is a tank hunter, in classification. It has high health, a duo of them can easily hunt down a Panther can kill it, or with market target kill larger armor.
The Panther is a very expensive tank that requires teching, the T-34/85 is a call in.
Sure you do play Soviets a lot. Your player card confirms it. Still waiting for the response regarding 1v1 match by the way.
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Yeah, I was to.
No, you didn't.
"The Panther is a very expensive tank that requires teching, the T-34/85 is a call in."
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Sure you do play Soviets a lot. Your player card confirms it. Still waiting for the response regarding 1v1 match by the way.
lol, you got one thread locked, isn't that enough?
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No, you didn't.
"The Panther is a very expensive tank that requires teching, the T-34/85 is a call in."
The Panther is good against allied medium tanks because that is it's intended purpose. It's a costly unit that does it's job well, and in no way does it invalidate all allied medium armor. It sure as hell doesn't invalidate enemy infantry.
Call in meta is stupid, and the Panther isn't a call in.
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Permanently BannedThe argument about German T3 being nullified by the T-34-85's arrival is the exact same argument you could have about the Germans having the Panther non-doctrinal.
Thats a very good point.
If soviets didnt have commanders, they would be the worst faction.
This is y the panther is so potent agaainst usf.
They dont have heavy damage soaker
Althrough, p47 is still bullshit admittedly
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