From alpha-beta to now. Which unit haven't got it's minute of fame?
Example: Hoorah (used to be free and then only 5muni), Rapid Conscription used to give Penals and Radio Intercept used to tell you when mines/bunkers were constructed.
Thread inspired by Stug-E op.
Which units n abilities have never been OP ?
14 Jan 2015, 17:40 PM
#1
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My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
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And if it is, you only care about winning.
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14 Jan 2015, 17:55 PM
#2
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Irregulars?
14 Jan 2015, 18:02 PM
#3
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Irregulars, partisans, T34(not ram), penals, PTRS, vehicle detection, Brummbar, KV-1, SU-76, M-42 AT gun, ML-20, AT gun camo, pretty much 50% of what soviets can do.
Every single ost unit except Brummbar was OP at one time for comparison, osttruppen included.
When it comes to OKW, only sturmtiger and IR HT.
USF pretty much like soviets, stuart, RETs, fighting positions, sherman, wolverine, PACK howi, HMG, M-20, both pathfinders, so again about 50% of what they can do.
Every single ost unit except Brummbar was OP at one time for comparison, osttruppen included.
When it comes to OKW, only sturmtiger and IR HT.
USF pretty much like soviets, stuart, RETs, fighting positions, sherman, wolverine, PACK howi, HMG, M-20, both pathfinders, so again about 50% of what they can do.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
14 Jan 2015, 18:03 PM
#4
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SU-76?
M5 Half Truck?
Scout Car?
Penals?
M5 Half Truck?
Scout Car?
Penals?
14 Jan 2015, 18:29 PM
#5
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Edit: took me too long to respond. I guess i should clarify that they doesn't neccesarily need to be OP, more like having something controvertial.
-Su76 weren't they "useful" during alpha or beta?
-I'll say ram is included on the performance of the T34. Ram all the tanks! 100% crit!
-45mm At gun was OP for those 3 days FHQ was broken and OP
-Brummbar: not OP level but used to be reliable to 1 shot At guns with ground fire.
-RET: volley fire OP.
-Sherman HE OP
-Pack Howi vet 2 OP
-2x IR Pathfinders can at least nuke OKW trucks
-M3s Scout cars used to be the almighty clowncars, it's weird you don't remember that.
-Su76 weren't they "useful" during alpha or beta?
-I'll say ram is included on the performance of the T34. Ram all the tanks! 100% crit!
-45mm At gun was OP for those 3 days FHQ was broken and OP
-Brummbar: not OP level but used to be reliable to 1 shot At guns with ground fire.
-RET: volley fire OP.
-Sherman HE OP
-Pack Howi vet 2 OP
-2x IR Pathfinders can at least nuke OKW trucks
-M3s Scout cars used to be the almighty clowncars, it's weird you don't remember that.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
14 Jan 2015, 18:36 PM
#6
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Irregulars, partisans, T34(not ram), penals, PTRS, vehicle detection, Brummbar, KV-1, SU-76, M-42 AT gun, ML-20, AT gun camo, pretty much 50% of what soviets can do.
Every single ost unit except Brummbar was OP at one time for comparison, osttruppen included.
When it comes to OKW, only sturmtiger and IR HT.
USF pretty much like soviets, stuart, RETs, fighting positions, sherman, wolverine, PACK howi, HMG, M-20, both pathfinders, so again about 50% of what they can do.
Well it's not like artillery officer was ever OP, so Brummbar isn't the only unit
Also, RET was kinda OP when volley fire was so strong.
14 Jan 2015, 18:41 PM
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Well it's not like artillery officer was ever OP, so Brummbar isn't the only unit
Was on edge with volley(just like ram didn't made T34 OP). And yea, forgot arty officer.
You probably do not remember recrewing MG42 with arty officer of old, right?
4 men with 4 armor HMG team.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
14 Jan 2015, 18:43 PM
#8
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Tripwire flares is the most OP ability I have ever seen.
Tobis "Complete Throw"
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14 Jan 2015, 18:47 PM
#9
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Tiger Ace has NEVER been OP!
In all seriousness Command P4, 82MM mortar, Zis, Ostheer Sniper, 222, M10, and pretty much what Katitof said save for REs. The Volley fire was pretty bad.
In all seriousness Command P4, 82MM mortar, Zis, Ostheer Sniper, 222, M10, and pretty much what Katitof said save for REs. The Volley fire was pretty bad.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
14 Jan 2015, 18:53 PM
#10
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Permanently BannedTripwire flares is the most OP ability I have ever seen.
Hans has lost multiple Ostheer Snipers to them
A Fallen Scrub
14 Jan 2015, 18:53 PM
#11
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Was on edge with volley(just like ram didn't made T34 OP). And yea, forgot arty officer.
You probably do not remember recrewing MG42 with arty officer of old, right?
4 men with 4 armor HMG team.
On the same sense, i could say that Penals crewing MG42 were strong, since they had huge DPS
-82mm had "OP" precision strike (it used to had damage modifiers).
-Zis: i guess tracking OP since they had to nerf it
-222: maybe vet2 + optics OP. I can't decide if the veterancy or the spotting scopes are the "problem".
Maybe it had been lost on the edit so i'll change the question a bit.
Which unit/ability didn't had at least SOMETHING really useful, even if it was so niche or last for so few time.
I'll say tanktraps, AI mines, trenches from the defensive commanders.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
14 Jan 2015, 18:59 PM
#12
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Permanently BannedIL-2 strafe
JK , that used to wipe armies
bad memories
JK , that used to wipe armies
bad memories
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
14 Jan 2015, 19:03 PM
#13
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Hans has lost multiple Ostheer Snipers to them
I would actually use them more if they didn't take so long to build. There is no reason it should take longer than an s-mine patch to plant.
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14 Jan 2015, 19:04 PM
#14
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USF light AT mines.....Ostheer Smoke Airdrop...Major Arty Barrage....Hull Down.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
14 Jan 2015, 19:14 PM
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-Zis: i guess tracking OP since they had to nerf it
They nerfed it around WFA release. Coincidentally, USF 57mm has focused sight -psuedo tracking-. Id like to believe it was simply replaced for #design, since the ZiS was one of the least complained units at the time.
14 Jan 2015, 19:21 PM
#16
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2cm flak emplacement 
, MG34, normal barbed wire, OKW mini howitzer, 76mm Zis?, Easy8 (It´s cost was too low, the unit itself is OK) Stug G
Haha good old times, just ram all tiger 3 times with t34 and drop some IL2 bombs or 152mm artillery.. Or just button with guards + IL2 bombs. Such cheese
Specially in 4v4 noobstomps late game soviets rammed tigers like hell, like 6 times in a row.
, MG34, normal barbed wire, OKW mini howitzer, 76mm Zis?, Easy8 (It´s cost was too low, the unit itself is OK) Stug GHaha good old times, just ram all tiger 3 times with t34 and drop some IL2 bombs or 152mm artillery.. Or just button with guards + IL2 bombs. Such cheese
Specially in 4v4 noobstomps late game soviets rammed tigers like hell, like 6 times in a row.
14 Jan 2015, 20:39 PM
#17
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one of my favorite units: ostheer sniper
poor fellow will forever be in the shadow of his soviet counterpart, no matter how fast he fires or how good his cloak is, because its the only 1-entity-infantry unit in the game
its a great unit but sooo risky to use
poor fellow will forever be in the shadow of his soviet counterpart, no matter how fast he fires or how good his cloak is, because its the only 1-entity-infantry unit in the game
its a great unit but sooo risky to use
14 Jan 2015, 22:43 PM
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combat engineers?
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14 Jan 2015, 22:58 PM
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Barbwire (which is BTW crushed by Kubelwagen. Relic, why?)
14 Jan 2015, 23:04 PM
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Ambulance,StuG G,Brummbar,Penals,Su76
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