Blobbing? - Remove the dragbox

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 20:08 PMUnshavenbackman

The blobbomaster will probably say that we need a nerf to threads like this. But as long as the blobs keep on coming it would be strange if we didnt discuss them. As title says a solution could be to nerf the way we move the game instead of finding the solution in nerfs and buffs. It could be that Relics testing (if there ever was one) shows that the units are balanced, so why change them? Then maybe its better to remove the dragbox so that players would be encouraged and forced to actually micro the units. The dragbox (is that whats its called?) is the box that makes you select multiple units in a sector by dragging a box around them before you attackmove against the enemy. Without the dragbox blobbing would be much harder.

I guess that such a change would imply some other changes. Maybe the tempo of the game would slow down a bit. But I cant see any negative consequences. Thoughts?

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 20:23 PMluvnest

It's the design of certain factions that cause blobbing, not the basic tools that label a RTS game.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 20:08 PMUnshavenbackman

The blobbomaster will probably say that we need a nerf to threads like this. But as long as the blobs keep on coming it would be strange if we didnt discuss them. As title says a solution could be to nerf the way we move the game instead of finding the solution in nerfs and buffs. It could be that Relics testing (if there ever was one) shows that the units are balanced, so why change them? Then maybe its better to remove the dragbox so that players would be encouraged and forced to actually micro the units. The dragbox (is that whats its called?) is the box that makes you select multiple units in a sector by dragging a box around them before you attackmove against the enemy. Without the dragbox blobbing would be much harder.

I guess that such a change would imply some other changes. Maybe the tempo of the game would slow down a bit. But I cant see any negative consequences. Thoughts?

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 20:32 PMOZtheWiZARD

Nope, no, niet, nicht, nie.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 20:23 PMluvnest

Nope terrible idea. Dragboxes are important to quickly select a squad if you don't have the time to particullary select it. They've been a basic element of RTS for ages, changing this would be the wrong approach.

It's the design of certain factions that cause blobbing, not the basic tools that label a RTS game.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2014, 21:55 PMCieZ

You could still select all squads easily without a drag box... double click. Control group. Done.

Why would you remove a fundamental mechanical element of playing RTS?

Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2014, 01:24 AMCyanara

I went back to the RTS grand-daddy Dune II briefly. They only had single unit selection in that and it nearly drove me insane They had added group selection by the next game (C&C).