Axis heavy armor needs nerf or Allied AT needs buffs

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 01:52 AMAsunaKirigaya

so:

wath i also hear often is that allies dont need a buff or axis a nerf because "allies can just do tactic X to kill that unit Y".

so the axis reason is, that allies can simply kill anything if they are investing much micro.

yeah of course. very fair.

so... axis gets powerful units so its much less micro intensive and allies HAVE TO STAY micro intensive because reasons?

is this fair?

no its not. this game is most of the time about microing your units good enough to get an edge over your enemy. and with the heavy micro intenesive units the allies have, they are way underpowered. as i said in an other thread earlier:

in a match with equal skill levels the axis will nearly alwayws win because the axis dont have to invest as much micro as the allies.

its simple as that.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 00:48 AMDakkaIsMagic

No matter what, some people wont accept the Panther being in a extremely good spot right now with very few negatives.

So yeah, no point in arguing the fact even more.

Jump back to quoted post29 Dec 2014, 17:37 PMNapalm

OKW has the best non-doctrinal tank destroyer in the game. The JagdPanzer is amazing when handled well. Unfortunately, entitled players have gotten use to the King Tiger and JagdTiger ease of use.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 03:00 AMausterlitz

Try fighting rifles with grenadiers and trying to survive,then talk who needs more micro and unit co-operation.The same boot is on the other foot lategame.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 03:00 AMausterlitz

Try fighting rifles with grenadiers and trying to survive,then talk who needs more micro and unit co-operation.The same boot is on the other foot lategame.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 07:56 AMMr. Someguy

Best is very opinionated, I think it's kinda crap. I'd rather use an SU-85 or hell, even a StuG, at least I can rely on that to hit and it doesn't need babysat 100% of the time due to some weird LOS handicap that out of every unit in the game, only it suffers. At least the SU-85 has better accuracy, penetration, and can spot for itself, while the StuG is cheaper and can get Spotting Scopes. Meanwhile someone forgot to tell the Jagdpanzer crew to watch their backside.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:05 AMAustralian Magic

Because microing 2-4 units in the first few mins is a way harder than microing fragile USF vehicles flanking KT from all directions and trying to avoid schrecks as well

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:06 AMNuclear Arbitor

JPIV is flat out the best non-doctrinal TD in the game. it's close to invulnerable with vet. a V is generally more useful but the jpIV is better against tanks.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:11 AMsteel

It's about the same. I play both factions more than the other 2 and I feel like they're the most micro intensive factions. Just different stage of the game.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:17 AMAustralian Magic

I can't agree. You wont lose a whole squad in 4 secs - unless grenade - because of bad microing.
If you are losing, just hit retreat button and you will probably survive.
Flanking with Jackson, on the other hand, is usually suicide misson against decet opponent.
Vehicles react more slowly, pathfinding issues, rotating instead of reversing, enemy has 10-15 units - not 3-6 -, boncing shots all the time.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 03:12 AMNinjaWJ

can you please stop going into every thread to say how USF wrecks OStheer. You can make your own mega thread if you wish

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:19 AMsteel

That is quite true. I just remembered that we play different game modes. ; Disregard what I said earlier.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:23 AMAustralian Magic

Why different? I'm not playing 4v4 for ages!
Only 2v2 or sometime 1v1

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 10:25 AMMr. Someguy

The US AT Gun used to come with the Captain, but Relic in their infinite wisdom invalidated months of alpha testing by moving it to Captain right before release.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 10:33 AMsteel

I believe you meant Lt. Best to edit it before someone else starts poking fun at you.

Jump back to quoted post30 Dec 2014, 17:03 PMAustralian Magic

Where did I say something about schrecks killing AA truck? Schrecks + 2 or 3 raketen in buildings.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2014, 09:15 AMbraciszek

But a panther has turret and that makes all the difference because then positioning and micro are no longer needed.

However, JPIV is pretty beast when it does hit something...