Teammates Who Don't Build AT
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It is quite annoying and frustrating when your teammate(s) do not build any AT weapons. I wouldn't mind if it was explicitly stated that they would skip out on the AT; I could always cover their weaknesses by building accordingly. I always build AT before i get any real tanks no matter what (i am a cautious player). It is frustrating to see teammates retreating all their units and getting annihilated because they have absolutely nothing to counter early/mid-game vehicles like the puma, luchs, and sherman.
Just wondering if anyone has felt like this...
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I know you tend to go 4v4 - was this Random? If so, honestly, what else could you reasonably expect?
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Did you politely suggest they might build AT?
I know you tend to go 4v4 - was this Random? If so, honestly, what else could you reasonably expect?
I typically go for a full arranged team 4v4. This has happened in the past, but the last game i played really made my blood boil. I hate when i see people saying "help please!" or "need tanks here!" because they couldve prevented or diminished the consequences of having little or no AT. I just want to face palm when i glance over and see a luchs chasing a bunch of retreating units to base and see no AT guns, mines, AT nades, etc.
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Like, they won't be able to play for an hour?
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tech to 4 as Soviet > builds Katyusha 5 minutes after med-heavy armor hit the field (no AT whatsoever)
Teching for a quick Katy isn't a bad idea idea honestly, especially given the prevalence of friendly shreked ober blobs to tear your infantry and armour (and especially AT guns) apart. Katys ruin blobs pretty well these days
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He does build AT in form of Panzergrenadiers with Panzerschrecks. If shit is already hitting the fan, he might even build some Pak 40s.
It doesn't matter if this map is an urban, close combat map or if it is as open as Steppes or Vielsalm, it doesn't matter if the enemy already has an army of anti-infantry tanks or IS-2s, he will just keep building a few squads of Panzergrenadiere and that has to suffice. If he loses them, he will just build new ones, at least he won't lack munition.
Life can be hard
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And that helps his teammates?
Apart from that it's a viable strategy, I do it myself from time to tim
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However, I'm once again depressed that we have another thread devoted to blaming random teammates.
Adapt your game, keep an eye on what they are doing and above all, stop assuming that you are the best player on your team and that everyone else is at fault for not doing what you want.
Chances are in fact that you are NOT the best player on your team in random 4v4
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He is aware that he should just build fuel caches, as he will get munitions by converting fuel to munitions, far more than from munitions caches
And that helps his teammates?
Apart from that it's a viable strategy, I do it myself from time to tim
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However, I'm once again depressed that we have another thread devoted to blaming random teammates.
Adapt your game, keep an eye on what they are doing and above all, stop assuming that you are the best player on your team and that everyone else is at fault for not doing what you want.
Chances are in fact that you are NOT the best player on your team in random 4v4
it's not random cough cough... don't assume that im assuming
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Teching for a quick Katy isn't a bad idea idea honestly, especially given the prevalence of friendly shreked ober blobs to tear your infantry and armour (and especially AT guns) apart. Katys ruin blobs pretty well these days
Yeah katty crushes right now. You barely have enough time to retreat too, mainly in close-mid range. Atleast you can move out of the way of a walking stuka. Panzerwerfer, jesus christ - worst unit in the game, 1 weak barrage and costs an arm and pudding penis to field.
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Also, i love destroying nasty OKW blobs with katty. Such satisfying feeling to barrage their imbalanced forward hq which gives OKW enormous advantage from the beginning of the game on full retreat and watch blob die. Getting vet 2 luchs from one trip to base against no mines snipers+shocks builds is another great feel.
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Teching for a quick Katy isn't a bad idea idea honestly, especially given the prevalence of friendly shreked ober blobs to tear your infantry and armour (and especially AT guns) apart. Katys ruin blobs pretty well these days
Very good. You missed few key points from what I said tho. Quote: 'Everything I said above"
Clues: no mention of infantry blobs, mid and heavy armor already hit the field, doesn't have any AT, etc....
I do agree on what you said about 'quick' katy and rest of your statement if we forget that you quoted my statement
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Yeah katty crushes right now. You barely have enough time to retreat too, mainly in close-mid range. Atleast you can move out of the way of a walking stuka. Panzerwerfer, jesus christ - worst unit in the game, 1 weak barrage and costs an arm and pudding penis to field.
If you are using your Panzerwerfer like a Katyusha it's going to suck ass but if you use it like your supposed to, which is to move it very close to the enemy blob and fire, then retreat you will quickly find it wiping multiple squads. Seriously, it punishes USF rifleblobs like there is no tomorrow, and is also useful in countering AT gun spam.
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