IS2 since rework to at nade pen is now op
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OH stock tanks > SU Stock tanks.
Since you were playing with OKW:
You have enough tools to deal with an IS2.
Since theres no more info, i expect it was just IS2.
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As for at nades i don't think they are really supposed to be effective vs such a heavy tank, use Ostruppen if you want to at nade an is2 or it will cost you too much manpower for little gain.
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Every game vs Sovjets you just get steamrolled a move by Is2s ( bit exagerating).
The pak now has an awful rof and it does not pen half of the time. It just has 400 (!) frontal armor with okish mobility. KT has just 25 more, but a teeeeerrible slow turret traverse and much higher cost considering OKWs fuel income. If you say reload time is higher than tiger then you gotta be kidding me. It is 1 second longer with more pen (250 to 220 tiger). Save for Ost having 4 man squads that get wiped down to 1-2 models constantly from just 1 shot ( if you target ground just inside the squads middle the accuracy is NOT that bad because it hits at least 1-2 models). Killing this thing as OST is almost impossible. Only advantage of Ostheer is the Panzerschreck , which is terrible nowadays because they cost a fortune while being on a 45 mp reinforce cost squad that loses almost all of it's ai power while equipping schrecks ( generally that is fine, but not in relation to heavy tank performance). Tellers are good but basically sovjet has almost the same with 2 mines in consecutive placement ( while these being also ai).
Pak and PG nerf hit ost so damn hard they need to be tuned up and Is2 tuned down ( would like to see a slight buff to Pak rof and PGs in general and a cost increase and slight armor nerf to around 350). Relic please....
OKW though needs a change to their Schreckvolx with Obers. Very good handheld AT on a 5 man cheapass squad is just too much. Maybe that is why some people think IS2 is fine ( because it IS vs OKW).
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Tiger has 300 armor and costs the same, is a little bit slower and deals less damage per shot (still higher dps)
IS2 also kills every inf within 2 while tiger kills up to 1.5(distance)
IS2 ahs higher pen 250.0/220.0/190.0 to 220.0/200.0/180.0(Tiger)
as an okw 2v2 player i realy hate facing them even with panther mainly because every shot is a potentail squadwipe and the raketenwerfer sucks big time (and is usualy burned to hell)
a Panther is able to tank it but deals not enough damage
jagdpanzer4 also deals no damage and is hard to support because of arty (no paks/raketenwerfer only blob)
only a KT/JT stand a chance
The IS2 a like the Kingtiger a superheavy anti everything weapon and almost impossible to take out without a sucide encirclement rush
On the other hand Tiger is greatly damaged by Slugger and Su85 unlike KT and IS2
I think the IS2 is greatly overperforming for it's price compared to the Tiger
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IS2 could use a accuracy buff, the aim is horrifyingly bad!
This.
Maybe IS2 is thick and resistant, but when it comes to ROF and accuracy....... it's terrible.
All in all, if I was to chose between a Tiger and an IS2, taking into account the latest Tiger nerfs (that took place 3-4 patches ago), I would STILL pick the Tiger. At list I can chose a doctrine with smoke, and pop some when i am in truble. What can I do with an IS2 when it's in truble?
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What can I do with an IS2 when it's in truble?
Die for you country like a hero. Havent you seen Fury movie?
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IS2 has 375 armor (http://www.coh2-stats.com/vehicles/is-2_heavy_tank_mp)
Tiger has 300 armor and costs the same, is a little bit slower and deals less damage per shot (still higher dps)
IS2 also kills every inf within 2 while tiger kills up to 1.5(distance)
IS2 ahs higher pen 250.0/220.0/190.0 to 220.0/200.0/180.0(Tiger)
as an okw 2v2 player i realy hate facing them even with panther mainly because every shot is a potentail squadwipe and the raketenwerfer sucks big time (and is usualy burned to hell)
a Panther is able to tank it but deals not enough damage
jagdpanzer4 also deals no damage and is hard to support because of arty (no paks/raketenwerfer only blob)
only a KT/JT stand a chance
The IS2 a like the Kingtiger a superheavy anti everything weapon and almost impossible to take out without a sucide encirclement rush
On the other hand Tiger is greatly damaged by Slugger and Su85 unlike KT and IS2
I think the IS2 is greatly overperforming for it's price compared to the Tiger
They both deal the same damage, tiger just has less scatter and faster reload, a jagdpanzer also deals the same damage as does the panther, soviets don't have a good at gun, a good tank hunter or a good portable anti tank weapon.
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IS2 could use a accuracy buff, the aim is horrifyingly bad!
Specially when they fight on a hill.. The amount of misses is too much.
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What can I do with an IS2 when it's in truble?
"We die like men!" - IS2 crew
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But that could be wrong and is only my experience.
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Specially when they fight on a hill.. The amount of misses is too much.
relic's ballistics can't into hills. when below they fire/throw short and when above they fire/throw long. it's been an issue since dow2 at least.
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My best counter is mines plus panther/pak.Or pak43.
Its a intimidating tank to be honest ingame,especially if there are 2 its like immortals.
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Next time only gonna build 1 IS-2 to take shots and SU-85 to actually hit stuff.
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