Win-Ratio 29.10. - 21.11.2014 + Other Fun Stats
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Here is a pic of one of the many graphs
Quick Notes
1. Game seems balanced in 1v1 and 2v2
2. 4v4 is the most popular game mode
3. Info gathered from ladders of the top 200 players from each faction
Older work by Legends
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/coh-2-balance-feedback/106966-win-lose-ratio-from-15-9-25-9-2014-much-more
http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/coh-2-balance-feedback/84723-win-lose-ratio-from-24-7-5-8-2014
http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/coh-2-balance-feedback/97486-win-lose-ratio-from-27-8-7-9-2014
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Permanently BannedOKW dominating all!
I thought they were soo hard to play.
*Meanwhile I have a 12 win streak with OKW
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Permanently BannedOn the other hand, 3v3 and 4v4 you are very reliant upon the IQ and capabilities of your, almost always, random teammates. Have had games where 1 teammate just camped his base for about 5-10 minutes after each attack. This happens on both sides of the teams. Have been steamrolled by very good Soviet or US players, have been steamrolled by very good Ostheer or OKW players as well. Most of the times the steamroll could always happen because one stupid player couldn't keep his act together, mostly from the first minute on.
3vs3 and 4vs4 will never be balanced, in those games you are to much relied upon the general IQ or depths of stupidity that is called your "teammate".
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Turns out the only underpowered thing about them was located between keyboard and a chair.
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I think the next step would be to take a random sample of games in the top 200 and do a Gaussian distribution for each faction.
Props to Legends
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These pie charts don't mean sheep.
it is only for visual purposes. there is interesting information in the google spreadsheet. Legends also talks about why the numbers are trustworthy in his original thread on the official coh board.
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it is only for visual purposes. there is interesting information in the google spreadsheet. Legends also talks about why the numbers are trustworthy in his original thread on the official coh board.
With OZ making that kind of a comment, there is no need for him to even look at the spread sheets, Statistics is clearly above him
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As much as I applaud the use of statistics in the original thread, these charts are only a simple representation going on. I think the wins per number of games is a better representation than win ratios, as win ratios has to do with the total number of games per player (which can vary quite a bit).
I think the next step would be to take a random sample of games in the top 200 and do a Gaussian distribution for each faction.
Props to Legends
Would not matter 1 vs 1 is well balanced. the JT and isu152 issue is mostly resolved. that leaves the issue of the ostheer supercharging the okw economy wih fuel caches in 3vs 3 and 4vs 4. i beleive that the okw should only receive 2 fuel and not 3. It would fix a lot of issues.
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Would not matter 1 vs 1 is well balanced. the JT and isu152 issue is mostly resolved. that leaves the issue of the ostheer supercharging the okw economy wih fuel caches in 3vs 3 and 4vs 4. i beleive that the okw should only receive 2 fuel and not 3. It would fix a lot of issues.
1) It does matter if 1v1 is well balanced
2) A statistical experiment such as this does not in any way prove how or why the statistics are the way they are, but simply that there is a discrepancy of wins between the factions. This is not the thread to discuss what is causing the problems but rather discussing the results which is:
there is irrefutable evidence pointing that above 1v1 Axis win more, and that there is a correlation which means these statistical results do matter and are not a random result.
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EDIT: I posted something stupid here then I realised that it made no sense, and couldn't find the delete post button
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Made stupid post ignore
Maybe you would like to explain why you think it is a poor post rather than making yourself looking dumb?
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This is Q3 arena MF!
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there is irrefutable evidence pointing that above 1v1 Axis win more, and that there is a correlation which means these statistical results do matter and are not a random result.
i can only say this : LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. 1 vs 1 is balanced. in fact soviets and usf have far less things to complain about then the ostheer who are only being propped up by the tiger. nearly every single faction is close to the 25% marker. a few weeks a ago the soviets had 28 % btw it simply fluctuates slightly but overall the balance is good in 1vs 1.
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ok its balanced
This is Q3 arena MF!
yuou know if their was a rifleman with a bar for each volks the result would be a horrific slaughter of all those volks.
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yuou know if their was a rifleman with a bar for each volks the result would be a horrific slaughter of all those volks.
Don't wanna go off-topic, but the answer is not Blob vs Blob. The blobbing issue (on both sides) needs to be fixed.
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