Relic, an idea for Volksgrenadier improvement
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This. And Pshrecks for sturms? haha
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Having Obers using LMG34 or Panzerschreck would serve as a good munition sink. Not sure if i like Pios with schrecks, very squishy squad to send against veichles.
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I like Milkacows post. Removing panzerschreck and adding faust instead sounds like a good idea. Still, if volks are to scale to late game they need some form of upgrade, AI or AT.
Having Obers using LMG34 or Panzerschreck would serve as a good munition sink. Not sure if i like Pios with schrecks, very squishy squad to send against veichles.
with their crazy vet stats and nade, i think they might be fine. just unlock at snare to them once first tech is teched for more versatility.
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Volksgrenadier improvement? They are useless now? Did I miss a patch?
They aren't useless yet, but they would be if a lot of these "suggestions" were pushed through.
Literally not enough AT in the OKW arsenal to stop M20 or M15 or even M3 and WC-51 rushes as it is. At what point does anything think that it's even marginally okay to remove the Panzershrek from the Volksgrenadiers?
Well colour me surprised. I had no idea you'd not like Milka's suggestions, you know, you being impartial and all...
As if any of you are being any less impartial.
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Im not fine with giving Schrecks to Obers however, because they are way too expensive and come way too late to be viable as an anti tank unit. Dont forget that its 50mp to reinforce. Thats quite a lot.
I would give the Schreck to the Pios instead, although they are expensive too. But not as much. You could offset some of the disadvantages caused by the squad and reinforcement cost by reducing the price for a Schreck. I would also give them the ability to carry 2 Schrecks.
But that would man that they would overlap with Pgrens to an extent.
OKW, as of now, is very reliant on Schrecks due to Raketens being garbage most of the time.
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Putting Panzerschrecks on Sturmpioniere or Obersoldaten in the described ways seems bad as well. Sturmpioniere are less survivable than Panzergrenadiere and half their veterancies will become obsolete if they cannot even repair anymore. Obersoldaten with Panzerschrecks will be a joke, you have to pay for a 400 manpower squad + reinforcement costs then to get something that Ostheer gets cheaper and it also comes rather late.
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Yeah, and Vet 5 Sturm blobs on the way.
320 mp per squad with 40-45 reinforce per man...now 4 man squad...
Kind of hard to blob with no manpower, and thats like complaining about ye old panzerschreck panzergrenadiers - which aren't anywhere as good as they once were. For good reason.
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Yeah, and Vet 5 Sturm blobs on the way.
I'd rather see blobs of fragile, expensive 4 man squads rather than blobs incredibly durable, scheap 5 man squads.
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These changes might be way too radical to ever be implemented though since at this point we're practically redesigning the faction.
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Another option is to give the Volks new abilities that cost munitions, or you can give the Volks the option of buying both the Panzershrek, an LMG and MP44's; they have the squad number to make this possible, it's entirely up to Relic though to implement these changes
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And lol at the MGS video, she's an OBERSOLDATEN!!!
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