JU-87 Strafe shredding tanks.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 09:44 AMQueenRatchet123

Thats completely incorrect

All air abilities have an area of effect

Recon will show a visible green circle

Attack runs will show a Red cirle

If tanks are out of red cirle. Even if the p47 spots them. it WONT fire.

Edit: there is also a way to trick the plane. If u see the direction the plane is attacking from. u can face ur tank twards the p47. revers while blitzing. then sharply turn. More rockets will miss. This only works if one p47 has been shot down. If the planes attack from both sides. then ur out of luck.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 19:22 PMHogman512

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About to jump on a 9 hour flight... I think many replies will be waiting for me when I reconnect on the other end...

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 20:16 PMMajorBloodnok

9 hours seems to be an eternity on this thread, sadly....I would not be so sure

A fellow Mod has had to invis another 2 posts..... this thread literally hangs in the balance...

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Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 03:33 AMgman1211

If you build T3 as soviet, their is a good chance your going to lose. If you build a half-track as soviets, your wasting resources, and are probably going to lose.

And lets say you do manage to finally get out a half-track that can survive the Germans superior at infantry, guns and tanks, its probably not going to shoot down an anti tank plane, faster then the anti tank plane will shoot it down.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 03:33 AMgman1211

If you build T3 as soviet, their is a good chance your going to lose. If you build a half-track as soviets, your wasting resources, and are probably going to lose.

And lets say you do manage to finally get out a half-track that can survive the Germans superior at infantry, guns and tanks, its probably not going to shoot down an anti tank plane, faster then the anti tank plane will shoot it down.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 04:55 AMpigsoup

i think 270/30 is not too much for forward reinforcing. and for 90mu or 120mu, i havent used it in a while, you get long range decent ai power and good aa power.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 08:35 AMTheMachine

Yeah they buffed the hell out of it last patch. And now we have this, since Relic don't know how to or don't bother to actually play test their changes.



Um, what? You think Incendiary Barrage is game breaking? You do realise that when you see that Red Smoke you can just walk out of it... like every other off-map arty ever except for strafing runs which do have smoke but have a massive radius that can't be dodged. If you're having problems with off maps abilities that are completely dodgeable then I think it says something about your skill level and how valid your opinion is on balance.

Also Incendiary does not instantly shred 80% off any tank (apart from IS2), nor does it instantly 80% infantry. It only works at forcing MG's and AT guns to make up before a big push, or area deny.

Insta-wipe IL2 of the past was OP and game breaking with no chance for counterplay... that's why it was nerfed. That's how balance works.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 14:30 PMHYBRIDHAWK6

Looks just as broken and overpowered as P-47. But does the Axis really need something of that calibre to go with its already strong Late Game tanks?

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 05:50 AMhannibalbarcajr

it does if it comes in a doctrine with no call in tanks.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 05:51 AMbraciszek

Then all commanders with no call in tanks should have an OP ability.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2014, 06:00 AMhannibalbarcajr

it should be taken into account, for instance the elefant is hardly OP on its own as a call in but if you were to put it in a doc with tiger call ins and storm trooper call in well that would be OP becuase of such a great array of elite units you can call in.

Or SU having T34/85 callin with IS-2 and KV8 and shocks and guards all in one commander.

Point number 2, why do you think SU and Wehr for instance barely use any commanders with no heavy tanks...because the other abilities aren't enough to compensate for the opportunity cost (a little econ term ) of passing up Tigers/Elefants.


Bottom line, entire commander array of abilites has to be considered as well as base army in deciding if ability is OP or not. Its why I don't think P47 is OP because USA needs to have a doctrine that greatly boosts AT capabilities as that is the core weakness of their base army...but thankfully for them the commander comes with great AB infantry call ins.