85s on themselves are not ridiculous. DOUBLE T34/85s with MARK VEHICLE are up to the same level as Tigers and IS2s.
This thread is not focusing on Axis OP, Allies UP or Tigers as it seems you like to take the thread. Rather than: this is why the meta is boring and why it is harder to play with medium tanks rather than heavies/call ins.
Theres a reason you'll see 90% of the time a match with a Tiger, IS2, ISU or T3485s.
Ciez's thread focus on cost relationship between call ins and tier tanks.
On this thread OP is trying to focus on micro requirement, risk and the disparity of possibilities on dealing with them.
You're right I did get a little off topic. At the same time, you seem to contradict yourself when talking about call-ins vs the innate advantage of heavies over mediums. I mean you can't say that t34/85s are on par with the heavies and then say there's an imbalance. AND I still think you can't consider units in a vacuum. I mean why try to stack up plain t34/85s to heavies when you know that you're going to be using Mark Target? Same goes with USF and p47s. Unless you think that the balance is just so screwed up, then it seems like a moot point.
Also I agree with the Ciez thread about call-ins themselves being too strong, regardless of the unit type. However I don't think that should affect this discussion.