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QueenRatchet123
28 Oct 2014, 21:08 PM
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i like the wehr mortar.
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28 Oct 2014, 21:08 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:06 PMspam.r33k


http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/grw34_81mm_mortar_wg_mp

all stats are actually from that page. youre right with the second part though. max scatter is the same :( ill edit my posts accordingly


That is the unused OKW version of the weapon, you want to look at this one:

http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/grw34_81mm_mortar_mp
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spam.r33k
28 Oct 2014, 21:15 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:08 PMCruzz


That is the unused OKW version of the weapon, you want to look at this one:

http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/grw34_81mm_mortar_mp



busted. you mess with the cruzzi, youre gonna embarress yourself. but no worries i wont rage delete my posts to hide my shame :D just edit it a little so ppl wont be confused.

still where do you get the reload times of the soviet mortar from? am i again looking at an unused usf 82mm?
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28 Oct 2014, 21:32 PM
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I'll admit I don't use the 82mm much, but I have a very low opinion of the 120 mortar since it was nerfed

I had one set up all game at the east VP on Lanzerath Ambush and it only scored 18 kills, enemy wehr had 2 mortars at vet 3 with 35+ each
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28 Oct 2014, 21:38 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:08 PMQueenRatchet123
i like the wehr mortar.

I like turtles
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28 Oct 2014, 21:43 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:15 PMspam.r33k

still where do you get the reload times of the soviet mortar from? am i again looking at an unused usf 82mm?


http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/pm41_82mm_mortar_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/pm41_82mm_mortar_barrage_mp
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28 Oct 2014, 21:51 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:01 PMCruzz


Where's the 4.5 seconds from? Because the autoattack reload is 2.4 seconds for ostheer, leading to ~60% faster ROF...




Ostheer mortar has better distance scatter, soviet has better angle. Effectively: ostheer mortar is probably just as accurate at max range, slightly less accurate at min range.

Soviet mortar benefits far more from barraging than ostheer mortar. When barraging the soviet 82mm is more accurate than 81mm in every category, and the reload difference is reduced to 2.7 seconds from 4.225 seconds.



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http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/pm41_82mm_mortar_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/pm41_82mm_mortar_barrage_mp


hmm. so whats the actual reload then? 2.7/4.225 or 7.5/3.575 (as listed in the links)?. im not trying to be a smartass (really, i blew my chance at that :D ), but rather understand how the whole calculation works, since i find it quite interesting
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28 Oct 2014, 21:54 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:51 PMspam.r33k




hmm. so whats the actual reload then? 2.7/4.225 or 7.5/3.575 (as listed in the links)?. im not trying to be a smartass (really, i blew my chance at that :D ), but rather understand how the whole calculation works, since i find it quite interesting


Guess I was a bit unclear again, but those were just the absolute differences in reload time. IE. 82mm in barrage reload speed while ignoring the aim times is (3.575+2.125+1)=6.7 and 81mm barrage is (2+2)=4 so difference of 2.7, while the firing speed difference in autofire is 4.225

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28 Oct 2014, 22:01 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:54 PMCruzz


Guess I was a bit unclear again, but those were just the absolute differences in reload time. IE. 82mm in barrage reload speed while ignoring the aim times is (3.575+2.125+1)=6.7 and 81mm barrage is (2+2)=4 so difference of 2.7, while the firing speed difference in autofire is 4.225



got it. thank you
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NinjaWJ
28 Oct 2014, 23:21 PM
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wow so much calculations going on...im so confused :(
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2014, 21:38 PMdek0y

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wow so much calculations going on...im so confused :(


This make you appreciate those who are in charge of balance, at least a bit isnt it :P
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