Obersoldaten and stuff

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2014, 21:54 PMWingZero

Please allow me the opportunity to have a US Ranger squad with Shock Troop's armor equipped with Thompson and wreck Ober's face off! #Fantasy

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 04:41 AMVaz

What your going to get is the armor of conscripts and the accuracy of rear echelons

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 05:10 AMsteel

They don't seem to be rangers but more like city boys.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 08:22 AMelchino7

4- Going back to Obers specifically, LMG34 is INSANE (see any unit which manage to pick them up). You could make the squad spawn with 2 LMG34 or just 1 and spread the DPS.

5- We could go back into making all LMG stationary. This would affect both Paratroopers and Obers (if you want DPS on the move, go STG or Thompsons).

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 08:28 AM☭ Калашникова ☭

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

Its utterly retarded that obers and paras run around firing a 26LB!!! LMG From the hip!
They are not John Rambo in First blood pt.2 or John Matrix from Commando!

The SMG should be the on the move option.
And yes yes yes to spreading out the DPS on the squad, One weapon shouldn't be the whole squad's DPS.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 08:22 AMelchino7

1- Lethality during early game is PERFECT.

2- Lategame lethality is a bit over the top. This includes several things but let's focus on infantry AI.

3- While upgrades should be meaningful, they shouldn't be OVER the top. This leads either to blobs or spread out A-MOVE army.

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 11:17 AMATCF

now that you said it, Obersoldaten really remind me of Arnold in commando

http://youtu.be/SNkC_ABia2s?t=2m25s

Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2014, 14:49 PMThe_Courier

Thing is, OKW don't lack for anti-infantry even without Obers.

Sturmpios are still powerful. They still get a mobile suppression platform. Volks are still very tough with a free grenade. 3 doctrines have powerful elite infantry, and a fourth a cheap MG. The Flak HT is a terror now. They can also easily lock down a sector against infantry with the T4 building. Luchs, when well microed, is really good too. And it's not like these two vehicles are incredibly expensive, a Flacktrack + Puma combo beats anything until the doctrinal mediums/heavies roll out.

When I play OKW, I very rarely get Obers, because I don't need them. Your other core units can very well beat allied infantry; Obers are just the overkill that allows you to effortlessly pound them into dust and force the allied player(s) to get AI vehicles just to counter your 400mp no muni no fuel supersoldiers. That's just stupid design, sorry. At the very least, Obers should need to invest munitions to get their all-powerful MG34, and IMO their LMG should be nerfed at long range along with every other LMG in the game.

And dammit, the lack of medium tanks is no excuse for OKW having superunits. They got the Puma, which any other faction would kill to have. They got shrecks on basic infantry. They got the best turretless TD in the game. They access a Panther far earlier than Ostheer. The faction is designed to work around that weakness; it doesn't need to also have nigh-invincible supersoldiers on top of that. Especially since Obers are not affected by the ressource penalty in any way.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 04:14 AMflysprayer

You say "when you play OKW" yet I can't see a single ranked game you have played as OKW on your player card... Single player is very different

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 11:17 AMATCF

now that you said it, Obersoldaten really remind me of Arnold in commando

http://youtu.be/SNkC_ABia2s?t=2m25s

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 08:30 AMVaz

Arnold is German, his dad was likely an Obersoldaten

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 08:39 AM☭ Калашникова ☭

What's even more funny is whoever picks up the magical lmg34 becomes a obersoldaten.
Today i managed to pick two lmg34's on a ostruppen squad. At the end of the macth they had over 70 kills, The cover buff and officer buff made it even worse.