Well, after a tough 4 way fight for the Elite slot between Obers, Shocks, Paras and Falls the Obers take it
http://www.coh2.org/topic/25090/fantasy-faction-i-builder-units
http://www.coh2.org/topic/25222/fantasy-faction-ii-core-infantry
http://www.coh2.org/topic/25382/fantasy-faction-iii-elite-infantry
Builder Unit: Sturmpioneers OKW 58%
Core Infantry: Grenadiers Ostheer 32%
Elite Infantry: Obersoldaten 28%
This round:
Unlockable infantry upgrade
This will be available for core and elite infantry.
OKW upgrades will have their fuel or upgrade costs adjusted into "real" terms
For giggles here is what our anti-faction currently looks like:
Builder: Rear Echelon Troops 2%
Core Infantry: Assault Engineers and Pathfinders 0%
Elite Infantry: Irregular, Partisan Tank Hunters and Ostruppen Reserve
Fantasy Faction IV: Elite Infantry
17 Oct 2014, 17:25 PM
#1
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17 Oct 2014, 17:29 PM
#2
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Panzershrek??
Also the title is wrong.
Panzershrek??
Also the title is wrong.
17 Oct 2014, 17:33 PM
#3
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Panzershek is not unlockable
It is an inherent feature of Volks and PGrens
It is an inherent feature of Volks and PGrens
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17 Oct 2014, 18:55 PM
#4
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In that case, here's how I look at it. All these unlockables fit into 3 categories: AI, AT, and utility.
Between strums, grens with LMGs and oberjesuses, there's already AI out the ass.
There's not much AT, but bazookas and PTRS are shit, so f that.
So it comes down to utility. With grens you already have the best AT snare, so no need for poopsock AT nades. Therefore it's down to molotov and US grenades, and I would easily take US grenades just for the smoke alone.
Between strums, grens with LMGs and oberjesuses, there's already AI out the ass.
There's not much AT, but bazookas and PTRS are shit, so f that.
So it comes down to utility. With grens you already have the best AT snare, so no need for poopsock AT nades. Therefore it's down to molotov and US grenades, and I would easily take US grenades just for the smoke alone.
17 Oct 2014, 19:01 PM
#5
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Do remember that Obers do get smoke grenade at vet 1. Curiously, Grens and Obersoldaten fulfill the exact role except for Panzerfaust, so once you unlock Obers there's almost zero reason to build Grens anymore.
17 Oct 2014, 19:08 PM
#6
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Do remember that Obers do get smoke grenade at vet 1.
Yeah I do, but you get to throw 2 smokes now
I mean what are ppl voting for? IR STG's? They're not that great on obers, and grens already have LMGs. I guess you'd be able to fire on the move which is nice.Curiously, Grens and Obersoldaten fulfill the exact role except for Panzerfaust, so once you unlock Obers there's almost zero reason to build Grens anymore.
Hey I voted for volks, not grens.
17 Oct 2014, 19:24 PM
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PTRS, obviously.
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17 Oct 2014, 19:28 PM
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PTRS, obviously.
If i could change my vote, i would go with the AWESOME PTRS.
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And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
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And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
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17 Oct 2014, 22:58 PM
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the best tree would probably be:
sturms (fastest repair rate, high early game damage) with combat engineers as a second pick
Volks (extremely strong veterancy buffs + shrek)
Obers (manpower only anti-infantry destroyer)
with the m1919 lmg upgrade, so you can give them to volks. volks are THE best platform to have any form of weapon on because their vet makes them so strong.
sturms (fastest repair rate, high early game damage) with combat engineers as a second pick
Volks (extremely strong veterancy buffs + shrek)
Obers (manpower only anti-infantry destroyer)
with the m1919 lmg upgrade, so you can give them to volks. volks are THE best platform to have any form of weapon on because their vet makes them so strong.
17 Oct 2014, 23:04 PM
#10
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the best tree would probably be:
sturms (fastest repair rate, high early game damage) with combat engineers as a second pick
Volks (extremely strong veterancy buffs + shrek)
Obers (manpower only anti-infantry destroyer)
with the m1919 lmg upgrade, so you can give them to volks. volks are THE best platform to have any form of weapon on because their vet makes them so strong.
basically OKW.
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17 Oct 2014, 23:11 PM
#11
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basically OKW.
And the Fantasy Faction is..... oh wait they're in the game! It's OKW!!!
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
18 Oct 2014, 00:43 AM
#12
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I'm amazed the M1919 is getting so many votes when Grens already have the LMG42 upgrade and Obers come with a free LMG34. Who is going to equip it, the Sturmpios?
Are people voting for the best upgrade period or the upgrade that best synergizes with the custom faction?
Are people voting for the best upgrade period or the upgrade that best synergizes with the custom faction?
18 Oct 2014, 09:46 AM
#13
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TO OP, Why don't you just play OKW, it is Fantasy Pure Aryan Masterace Faction which you dream of(created by relic)
First off all. Tripwire so gud, 10 ammo for a whole dead squad ? + sight.
Vehicle capture point can win games, blitzkrieg save a tank. Fair Deal i think
18 Oct 2014, 09:59 AM
#14
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TO OP, Why don't you just play OKW, it is Fantasy Pure Aryan Masterace Faction which you dream of(created by relic)Why do you even start saying this kind of things to the OP. He's just doing this for fun and wants to know what people would do if they could create their own faction. Unless you're just joking (which I don't think you are) then there's absolutely no reason to act like that.
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18 Oct 2014, 11:24 AM
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Why do you even start saying this kind of things to the OP. He's just doing this for fun and wants to know what people would do if they could create their own faction. Unless you're just joking (which I don't think you are) then there's absolutely no reason to act like that.
All upgrades and infantry selected are Axis things, if you didnt notice yet. And most of it comes from OKW.
See the issue?
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18 Oct 2014, 12:32 PM
#16
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The problem is that those are what the people have voted not what the OP wanted to play.
All upgrades and infantry selected are Axis things, if you didnt notice yet. And most of it comes from OKW.
See the issue?
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18 Oct 2014, 13:05 PM
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Indeed.
I recall stating at the top anyway that this is not a question of necessarily getting the best or most capable units in any case, not least because the MP drain, pop cap and costs may be prohibitive.
I recall stating at the top anyway that this is not a question of necessarily getting the best or most capable units in any case, not least because the MP drain, pop cap and costs may be prohibitive.
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18 Oct 2014, 13:15 PM
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I've been interested to see so far that no one wants recurring AT.
Shreks are a one off cost, but no one went for units that can have them,
Right now we are reliant on Grenadier Fausts as sole infantry AT, with them taking LMGs and rifle grenades as well that will be a lot of munitions.
We don't need AT Grenades because Fausts will do the same
We don't need US grenades for same reason (all we get from that is smoke)
Molotovs are not going to add much (you flank with Sturms, LMG Grens or Obers something is dead anyway)
BARs are expensive, droppable and don't add much - this faction already has superb AI
G43s are great, but we already have Obers without needing munitions and the cost will be high
PTRS is reliable AT and undervalued, but it is not worth paying for and will drop AI DPS too much on 4 man squads
PPSH will I think, merely make the infantry worse
Which leaves me with:
Flamethrower would give close in AI, Utility and Building clearance
IR STG 44 will be death (especially if we can put it on Sturms and keep the Obers as they are) but will be very expensive
M1919, we already have Obers for long range
Shreks are a one off cost, but no one went for units that can have them,
Right now we are reliant on Grenadier Fausts as sole infantry AT, with them taking LMGs and rifle grenades as well that will be a lot of munitions.
We don't need AT Grenades because Fausts will do the same
We don't need US grenades for same reason (all we get from that is smoke)
Molotovs are not going to add much (you flank with Sturms, LMG Grens or Obers something is dead anyway)
BARs are expensive, droppable and don't add much - this faction already has superb AI
G43s are great, but we already have Obers without needing munitions and the cost will be high
PTRS is reliable AT and undervalued, but it is not worth paying for and will drop AI DPS too much on 4 man squads
PPSH will I think, merely make the infantry worse
Which leaves me with:
Flamethrower would give close in AI, Utility and Building clearance
IR STG 44 will be death (especially if we can put it on Sturms and keep the Obers as they are) but will be very expensive
M1919, we already have Obers for long range
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18 Oct 2014, 13:17 PM
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Despite that it will be expensive I will go for the IR STG 44
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19 Oct 2014, 02:00 AM
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Bazookas are bad but this faction REALLY NEEDS Anti tank so i voted for bazookas.
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