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I think this game can reach some balance in 3v3 and 4v4, but it needs a lot of pro player feedback, work and time for tweaks from Relic.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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if fixing 4v4 will break 1v1, i would like Relic to not touch 4v4. If you wanna play balanced, competitive match, you should leave 4v4 and go for 1v1 or 2v2. However, some may just want to have fun, then they might play 4v4.Why can't we just find a balance that works for all modes. We just need a equalizing factor that keeps certain units or builds from getting out of hand in the larger modes. Something like fuel upkeep.
First of all, bro, you should check yourself whether you want simple daily fun or you want competitive hard core fun. Then play the game in a suitable mode(1v1 or 4v4). That's the way I go for a match.
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Permanently BannedGenuine Question: If 4v4 is so utterly broken, why do you continue to play it instead of moving to 1v1 or even 2v2 (2v2 I understand still has some issues but better than 4v4 from the sounds of it).
I personally hate long matches, and prefer to not have to rely/be relied on by other players so I only play 1v1, but I really want Relic to fix 4v4 so everyone can be happy.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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Why can't we just find a balance that works for all modes.
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People believe that they can overcome imbalance if they try hard enough.
Doesnt work out, usually, and its not fair to tolerate it,
if fixing 4v4 will break 1v1, i would like Relic to not touch 4v4. If you wanna play balanced, competitive match, you should leave 4v4 and go for 1v1 or 2v2. However, some may just want to have fun, then they might play 4v4.
First of all, bro, you should check yourself whether you want simple daily fun or you want competitive hard core fun. Then play the game in a suitable mode(1v1 or 4v4). That's the way I go for a match.
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I agree.
I have so many memories of épic battles IN COHO, WITH HUGE COMEBACKS and reversals ... You rarely see them IN COH2 (4vs4). Well you do see them sometimes, but the comeback is generally made by the axis.
Has to why i keep plaiying for now, there is simply no other RTS of that quality around. Some people play diablo or solitaire, i prefer a challenge (i am more a Dark Souls kind of guy than a diablo type game) and i love teamwork, i can enjoy 1 vs 1 from Time to Time, but large maps and large amont of variables is more satisfying to me and to many of my friends.
I find it annoying That we dont have at least ont more veto map in 4 vs 4. You are forced to play on axis advantage maps ... And WITH the lost orders... What a nightmare.
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So... what I wanted to say? The point is in teamwork mostly. Faction balance isn't a thing when you are supported by other players.
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Well I'm a 1v1 player, and I think 4v4 is for noobs, and relic shouldn't even try to balance it because I personally don't play it. LONG LIVE KT SPAM!!!
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First of all, bro, you should check yourself whether you want simple daily fun or you want competitive hard core fun. Then play the game in a suitable mode(1v1 or 4v4). That's the way I go for a match.
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i sometims kind of wish 4v4 had an alternate mode, like one team is defense the other is offense. and the rules of the game mode could work into the (in)balance of large team games.
1v1 is where its at for a serious game, but 4v4s are fun because theyre more casual and slow paced. but have their merits
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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I'm puzzled that we still don't have Montargis or Route 113 in 4v4 These were undoubtedly the favourites in CoHO
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How do you play a fun game in 4v4? All I see is nice game til 20 mins and then Jagdlol that hardcounters all armour. Armour that is needed since OKW infantry hardcounter allied infantry
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I have so many memories of épic battles IN COHO, WITH HUGE COMEBACKS and reversals ... You rarely see them IN COH2 (4vs4). Well you do see them sometimes, but the comeback is generally made by the axis.
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How do you play a fun game in 4v4? All I see is nice game til 20 mins and then Jagdlol that hardcounters all armour. Armour that is needed since OKW infantry hardcounter allied infantry
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As someone who played a bunch of teamgames in COHO and was fairly high rank in coh1, I'll just say the balance in COHO was HUGELY in favor of axis in all modes...even more so than COH2. If you had fun and interesting games there, it was because you played against people who couldn't figure out what parts of the game were completely and utterly broken (using broken axis hero units to immediately push allies off map, then using blitz flares to win every single engagement for the rest of the game, for insEtance)
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