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4v4 Top 10 Win Ratios and Streaks

8 Oct 2014, 20:31 PM
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If you look at the right side of the screen, you can find a leaderboards tab where you can sort through the top 10 players. factions, and gamemodes. Now if you look at the 4v4 game type and scroll through the factions, it shows something extremely disturbing and shocking.


USF and Soviet winrates hover form about .500-.680 and they have very modest win streaks form 1-10 games won in a row. Now here is the shocking portion.

The winrate of Ostheer players lies at about .630-800. They have extremely impressive streaks with most of the players having 15 games won in a row or more (one player has a 51 game winning streak!!!!). Now this is the insane part. Look at OKW. OKW winrates lie at .800 to .920!! Their players have massive winning streaks with four players having achieved over 30 plus win streaks (46,34, 65,38)!

now if you compare these observations with what Legends has found (you can access it here http://www.coh2.org/topic/24745/win-lose-ratio-from-15.9.--25.9.2014-much-more), you can get a visual idea of how ridiculous Axis is in 4v4s. Looking at the leaderboards, it seems that even top 10 Allied players have a tough time maintaining good winstreaks, but for the Axis, it is a piece of cake


8 Oct 2014, 20:35 PM
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im pretty sure this is in part why OKW got a recent munitions income nerf.
8 Oct 2014, 20:36 PM
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All know this already. Either relic will fix it or maybe the players will invent a new allies-meta. Spamming in this forum wont help.
8 Oct 2014, 20:41 PM
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4v4 ladder... :foreveralone:
8 Oct 2014, 20:52 PM
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Axis being OP in large games isn't news. I'm 56-5 in OKW 3v3, 4 of 5 losses were to top arranged teams. I regularly win with 1-2 AI players after teammates drop. It's broken beyond belief, but anyone who's interested in team games has known this for months.
8 Oct 2014, 20:58 PM
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That's why I quit 4v4 and switch to 2v2 random. My anger was too big and it was leading me to the Dark Side...
8 Oct 2014, 21:01 PM
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Check the AT leaderboard. Quite different there.
So, why is that?
8 Oct 2014, 21:02 PM
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That's why I quit 4v4 and switch to 2v2 random. My anger was too big and it was leading me to the Dark Side...


There is no shame in playing Axis. I see it as doing everyone a favor by creating more data for Relic to analyze. By stomping on Allied players with my eyes closed, we're helping balance the game!!!!1!11!

#UghRelic #Hastags #JannePREASE
8 Oct 2014, 21:24 PM
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Permanently Banned
old news...
8 Oct 2014, 21:59 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Oct 2014, 21:02 PMOhme


There is no shame in playing Axis. I see it as doing everyone a favor by creating more data for Relic to analyze. By stomping on Allied players with my eyes closed, we're helping balance the game!!!!1!11!

#UghRelic #Hastags #JannePREASE


No shame in playing Axis? Agree but I'm Allies player since WFA :) (if You mean I'm Axis guy) That's why I mentioned anger in 4v4. As OKW it's "God mod". I have 41W/5L as OKW in 4v4 despite I'm newbie as them.
8 Oct 2014, 23:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Oct 2014, 21:01 PMkamk
Check the AT leaderboard. Quite different there.
So, why is that?


At the moment, you have to play the allies in an incredibly specific way to be on equal footing with the Axis, additionally if you have too many USF teammates you will stand no chance as they are very weak during different phases of the game, which can get them forced off the resources quite easily. I would assume top arranged teams are aware of this.

Additionally, it was almost impossible to lose last patch with axis, you literally had to be facing a good team and you needed a player to disconnect or go AFK, many wins are from that patch

Finally Alot of those ATs are probably from before WFA when the game was relatively balanced even in 4v4 only the last couple patches have been producing 80-90% axis win rates

Edit: as far as im aware i almost never see any top allied players actually playing the game anymore, i havn't played soviets in like 2 patches but i see alot of those top okw players online, this probably makes it easier to streak as axis
9 Oct 2014, 01:11 AM
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It is shameful to play Axis...sigh... people just wanna farm those easy wins
9 Oct 2014, 01:44 AM
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Whats new, axis were always better then allies in team games. Now OKW op to the point where they can win without tanks. No kidding.

Only mystery for me why people still playing allies.
9 Oct 2014, 03:53 AM
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It is shameful to play Axis...sigh... people just wanna farm those easy wins



if no one played axis then no one would get to play at all
9 Oct 2014, 06:15 AM
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Not a popular sentiment but 3v3 and 4v4 really should have a separate stat table and rule set to reflect their arcadey nature.
9 Oct 2014, 08:51 AM
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Whats new, axis were always better then allies in team games. Now OKW op to the point where they can win without tanks. No kidding.

Only mystery for me why people still playing allies.



That's not true, Allies were mostly OP in VCOH teamgames, especially after OF. But even in the time of super Roo's it wasn't comparable to ridiculous disparity as lately.

(it was extremely hard to survive as axis team early-mid game when there were skilled teams involved) 1/3 win ratio for Axis
9 Oct 2014, 08:56 AM
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That's not true, Allies were mostly OP in VCOH teamgames, especially after OF. But even in the time of super Roo's it wasn't comparable to ridiculous disparity as lately.

(it was extremely hard to survive as axis team early-mid game when there were skilled teams involved) 1/3 win ratio for Axis


I don't think he was factoring in coh1, we're talking about coh2.
9 Oct 2014, 09:28 AM
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Huh, no one cares about 4x4. Sad.
9 Oct 2014, 10:47 AM
#19
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To be fair you should take the amount of games played into account. Top 10 Axis in 4v4 random have much more games played compared to the Allies. A more accurate comparison would be within the arranged teams.

Hon3ynuts had some very good points.
9 Oct 2014, 13:10 PM
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Only mystery for me why people still playing allies.


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