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Most requested unit in coh2 history...

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19 Sep 2014, 12:10 PM
#101
avatar of $nuffy

Posts: 129

As an (still) exclusive Axis player, who plays mostly 3vs3 and 4vs4s I must say I'd love to see Pershing hit the (coh2) field soon. As an obvious fan of Axis heavy stuff, it's "almost" always really fun and intense when you meet a decent match in the field of battle (ie. IS2's, ISU's etc.) and same was with the Pershing in the vCoH and Pershing Ace in BK mod. Yet just implementing it overnight without a complete design overhaul would bring all kinds of troubles. A Pershing commander would render most of the other commanders "unpopular" and complementing it with USF economy and Jackson (and it's range) would mean a potential balance catastrophe. Not to complicate things further I'll say that the current commander system and design is far from perfect and the current meta data proove it. I'm very supportive of the ideas that suggest overall non doctrinal "basic" heavy unit such as KT, for all factions ie. Tigers and IS's for Soviets and OH and that would mean Pershing for the USF. Given the combination of enough xp points, resources and manpower - every faction should be able to field one 'basic' heavy tank. While specialised units such as Jagdtiger, Elephant and ISU would follow obvious doctrinal logic. As someone on this forum stated, commanders/doctrines should be about special and unique abilities/perks/playstyles, not about having or not having the 'luxury' of some of the basic means of war (ie. Heavy tanks). Unfortunately Relic really took few bad turns with their Commander system/implementation/design that I'm not so sure it can be rectified without turning everything upside down :/ Anyhow - Heavy tanks to the people ! Pershing included !
19 Sep 2014, 12:12 PM
#102
avatar of Orkfaeller

Posts: 99






Plz, display ur ignorance more why dont you....


They were talking about the M6, not about the Pershing;
maybe actually read people's posts before you attack them?
19 Sep 2014, 12:54 PM
#103
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063

Flak 88 and Callie, Stuh 42 if possible.
19 Sep 2014, 13:36 PM
#104
avatar of QueenRatchet123

Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2

Permanently Banned
jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2014, 12:10 PM$nuffy
As an (still) exclusive Axis player, who plays mostly 3vs3 and 4vs4s I must say I'd love to see Pershing hit the (coh2) field soon. As an obvious fan of Axis heavy stuff, it's "almost" always really fun and intense when you meet a decent match in the field of battle (ie. IS2's, ISU's etc.) and same was with the Pershing in the vCoH and Pershing Ace in BK mod. Yet just implementing it overnight without a complete design overhaul would bring all kinds of troubles. A Pershing commander would render most of the other commanders "unpopular" and complementing it with USF economy and Jackson (and it's range) would mean a potential balance catastrophe. Not to complicate things further I'll say that the current commander system and design is far from perfect and the current meta data proove it. I'm very supportive of the ideas that suggest overall non doctrinal "basic" heavy unit such as KT, for all factions ie. Tigers and IS's for Soviets and OH and that would mean Pershing for the USF. Given the combination of enough xp points, resources and manpower - every faction should be able to field one 'basic' heavy tank. While specialised units such as Jagdtiger, Elephant and ISU would follow obvious doctrinal logic. As someone on this forum stated, commanders/doctrines should be about special and unique abilities/perks/playstyles, not about having or not having the 'luxury' of some of the basic means of war (ie. Heavy tanks). Unfortunately Relic really took few bad turns with their Commander system/implementation/design that I'm not so sure it can be rectified without turning everything upside down :/ Anyhow - Heavy tanks to the people ! Pershing included !


This already happens in-game. I dont hear people saying that jacksons with IS-2's are op
19 Sep 2014, 13:56 PM
#105
avatar of MadeMan

Posts: 304

jump backJump back to quoted post18 Sep 2014, 21:52 PMUGBEAR


So the German uniforms is the cause of searching disparity? Sounds like NAZI friendship with Jewish people-AKA complete Joke.

The more people searching Aixs is because Aixs got more toys to play with, I don't remember the COH2 aixs uniform is cooler than the COH1, the searching disparity at that time were almost even.


It was a joke mate.
19 Sep 2014, 16:26 PM
#106
avatar of Mannydegger

Posts: 10

jump backJump back to quoted post18 Sep 2014, 22:01 PMArclyte


LOL

"unrealistic"? We can have obersoldaten with FLIR scopes on their rifles. We have Ostwinds, of which only 44 were ever constructed. We have magical IR halftracks that light up half the map. We've got JLI and Falls with super secret Nazi teleportation devices that allow them to pop out of any building.

Yet we somehow can't have a Pershing (that actually saw combat) because it's not "realistic"


+1
19 Sep 2014, 17:23 PM
#107
avatar of $nuffy

Posts: 129



This already happens in-game. I dont hear people saying that jacksons with IS-2's are op


I was obviously thinking of it as a possibility of one player alone. When one man can field such combo it might be regarded as OP, but when there's two or more it's nothing but good teamplay. I remember one time one premade team fielded a combo of 2 IS2's backed by a 4 Jacksons.. 3 or 4 of my team mate's Panthers perished in (literally) seconds. Yet.. then they run into my twin King Tigers backed by Elephant and Jagdtiger. 90 seconds later they surrendered. It was one of those marathon 4vs4 war stories and one of the most exciting endgames I ever played, and without all of that heavy metal it wouldn't be half as fun as it was.
19 Sep 2014, 17:39 PM
#108
avatar of Airborne

Posts: 281

I whould love to see pershing in Coh2 but it doesn't fit in americans faction dessing. But realsim doesn't matter at all in Coh2, OKW has also stuff what aren't really relastic. you know that rocket thing.
19 Sep 2014, 18:07 PM
#109
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701

Make Jackson doctrinal and im fine. Imagine Pershing + Jackson behind = gg
19 Sep 2014, 18:23 PM
#111
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

Make Jackson doctrinal and im fine. Imagine Pershing + Jackson behind = gg


Imagine Tiger/KT + Ele/Jagd......oh wait we have them
19 Sep 2014, 18:48 PM
#112
avatar of Tobis
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Imagine Tiger/KT + Ele/Jagd......oh wait we have them

Except one player can't field both at the same time....
19 Sep 2014, 18:53 PM
#113
avatar of butterfingers158

Posts: 239

jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2014, 18:48 PMTobis

Except one player can't field both at the same time....


A player can technically field a KT and Jagd at the same time
19 Sep 2014, 18:58 PM
#114
avatar of Glendizzle

Posts: 149

one player can field a king tiger and a jagdtiger. that said it's nearly impossible as you have to have VERY little of anything else due to population concerns not to mention the huge amount of resources necessary for both.
19 Sep 2014, 19:00 PM
#115
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701



Imagine Tiger/KT + Ele/Jagd......oh wait we have them



Cant tell if serious..or mental case XD
19 Sep 2014, 19:00 PM
#116
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

I wasn't refering to just 1v1s...teamgames's german heavy armor is a pain in the ass.
19 Sep 2014, 19:27 PM
#117
avatar of Lenny12346

Posts: 307 | Subs: 3

Lol... I love the way you are thinking, Sarge!
19 Sep 2014, 19:39 PM
#118
avatar of aradim

Posts: 110

Just to point out for all the people asking for a sherman jumbo: The sherman jumbo was outclassed by the easy 8, the ez8 was the ultimate sherman design of WWII, making the jumbo the big bad "heavy" of the US faction wouldn't make much sense, it would be more similiar to a KV1, slow, good armor, kinda shitty cannon.
19 Sep 2014, 19:44 PM
#119
avatar of $nuffy

Posts: 129



A player can technically field a KT and Jagd at the same time


Approx. every 2/10 games.. I manage to build two KT's or KT & JT. (4vs4 of course)

19 Sep 2014, 19:47 PM
#120
avatar of QueenRatchet123

Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2

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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2014, 19:39 PMaradim
Just to point out for all the people asking for a sherman jumbo: The sherman jumbo was outclassed by the easy 8, the ez8 was the ultimate sherman design of WWII, making the jumbo the big bad "heavy" of the US faction wouldn't make much sense, it would be more similiar to a KV1, slow, good armor, kinda shitty cannon.


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