Ostheer 1v1 USF
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But on the bright side.... the US players who beat you in 7 minutes didn't get a very satisfying game either.
Balancing asymmetrically over time is just a crappy design.
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guys could we try to not go for personal attacks. also onelines don't tend to be received well.
Yep, sorry for that. Keep the good work
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Just don't spread your units trying to be aggressive as single units get picked up really easily by the US. Just my experience so far (I'm around rank 25-50 with all factions).
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Well, USF has no counter to snipers. If you can survive the first 10 mins of the game with 1-2 grens, 2 mgs, tellers, 1 pak and 1 sniper the US can't do shit. A rushed 250 with shrecks in it is a pain in the ass.
US has m20 to counter snipers, especially if they rush it before the Pak comes out.
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US has m20 to counter snipers, especially if they rush it before the Pak comes out.
Faust it
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Faust it
Fausts don't even counter the m3, m20 is much more efficient at harassing with self repair and speed.
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Fausts don't even counter the m3, m20 is much more efficient at harassing with self repair and speed.
It won't kill, it will stall until you get a PaK out
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Fausts don't even counter the m3, m20 is much more efficient at harassing with self repair and speed.
Fausted M20 won't chase any sniper.
You people excuse yourself with AT nades protecting sov snipers, but somehow magically fausts can't do the same to protect german one? Isn't that... double standard here?
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Fausted M20 won't chase any sniper.
You people excuse yourself with AT nades protecting sov snipers, but somehow magically fausts can't do the same to protect german one? Isn't that... double standard here?
No? When did I say sov snipers needed to be more vulnerable to vehicles?
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1) How much DPS is Penals on M3 vs 222?
Fausted M3 can still kill, naded 222 is dead
2) How much HP is M20 vs 222?
Fausted M20 (assume without pak around, it still kill until jump out and apply super glue), naded 222 melted to Rifles in 3 sec.
Anyway, at the end, 222 sucks.
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Used to, you could harass with 222 (run it up at point blank) and inflict some heavy MP drain on rifles while HT was somewhere else on the map. Its effectiveness has dropped a lot since then.
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I'm just staying away from Ostheer 1v1. But still, if AG, Ostruppen and grens aren't working, you probably should choose the opposite way in your oppenings by spaming Mg42s instead of grens. Something must work .
If osttruppen aren't working for you, try again...
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Play defensively for 10 minutes, protecting your cut off and grouping your grens. Build T2 and do 1 conversion of fuel to muni. This should get you 4 LMG grens. Compliment blessed LMG grens with paks, MGs or if the map is good for it, mortar. Save fuel for P4.
At this point you should be wrecking face with LMG grens with pak and P4 support, although any competent USF player probably has M20 mines around, so better move your P4 with a minesweeper/scout routes with a sweeper before moving. From there you can convert more fuel to muni, use all CAS abilities, they are actually really effective due to a little known fact, they are immune to the AA-HT whilst in AA mode since the stukas do not loiter - assuming it hasn't already died to a pak.
The AT strafe is actually quite powerful too, it will one shot a stationary AA-HT, and can bring Easy 8's to 25% hp or less. Stuka bomb for the major/med truck blob if you manage to get a sneaky scout on it.
2nd P4 not mandatory but will seal the deal.
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Other than that Mobile Defensive Doctrine proved to be fine for me as its call ins (Ostruppen, Puma, Command P4) do synergize quite effectively with a defensive combined arms Gren/MG42/Mortar/PAK40 into P4 playstyle.
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You can hide your sniper anytime.....
Tellers still exist.....
Dirty cheap osts still here.....
Vetted Mg-42s with AP rounds......
If you get a PAK they won't dare rushing in.
If you survive the first 10 mins as Ost you can get a sniper anytime without fear of US counter, only Priests are a problem.
About ET; it's still retarded.....gren spam + p4s into TA
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