Kubel counterplay

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 21:55 PMGreeb

Disabling reverse gear in kubel could be a good start, like vCoH bike.
Kiting infantry when your enemy only has 2 units in the map is too powerful.

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 23:05 PMAchtAchter

The game engine doesn't allow that.

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 23:11 PMCruzz

There was this thing called the Motorbike in coh1. For which the files are still even in coh2, though unused. There is pretty much zero reason for breaking non-reversing units, so why would they have?

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 20:55 PMGreeb

It's obvious that new kubel needs a fuel cost to prevent early spam.

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 21:47 PMVonIvan

Kubels actually suppress rifles efficiently even in green cover, 7/10 this tends to happen whenever I play. It gets ridiculous at times. And attempting to flank a Kubel with 2 rifle squads is also a challenge considering it can quickly move over to suppress the second rifle squad coming at it.

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2014, 00:14 AMlanciano

The core issue here isnt the kubel its self, its usf unit structure. you notice no has a issue with the kubel when playing as soviets, as there are plenty of options to counter the kubel. USF T1 needs more than just riflemen. Maybe add a scout jeep like coh or move the m20 and put a higher price tag like 35-45 fuel.

Any ways I just think that just being able to build rifles is fucking stupid while your opponent can build a rang of AT, support and Infantry units and this is the core problem in my a pinion

Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2014, 00:25 AMKamfrenchie

i'm pretty sure soviets have itssues with it aswell. It forces them to go m3, and even then it's rng based. Conscripts on the other hand have less dps than rifles so it's harder to kill this damn thing given how fast it is.

Even AT units often miss it. Seeing that thing get missed by several su76 or su85 shots in a row while stationnary is unfuriating, when m3 get hit almost all the time

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 23:35 PMAchtAchter

Ahh I might mixed that up with the fact that reversing is as fast as driving forward.
Yet still doesn't that heavily break immersion, when a car is unable to hit the R gear?

Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2014, 23:11 PMCruzz

There was this thing called the Motorbike in coh1. For which the files are still even in coh2, though unused. There is pretty much zero reason for breaking non-reversing units, so why would they have?

• Rifle Company - Ensure your vet 1 rifle is the unit that does not get suppressed and you can force the kubel to instantly pick up due to threat of AT nade. Lose this early key engagement and its all but game over.
  
• Mechanized Company - Roll out with the 1CP jeep and attack move as soon as possible into the Kubel before they get a panzershreck (lucky if they don't have one anlready).