4v4

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 10:27 AMAustralian Magic

Ok, new serious problem just arrived. Trolls. I had few games with guys who do not have any commanders or bulletins and they simply do nothing. They are not afk, they are writing that they are trollig casue it's impossible to win as Allies vs Axis. They simply do nothing as a protest against unbalance.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:44 AMnigo

OMG

the boycott has begun.

run the hills!!!!!

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:51 AMBabaRoga

There you have it, unofficial statement from Relic about importance of 4v4 balance

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 10:27 AMAustralian Magic

Ok, new serious problem just arrived. Trolls. I had few games with guys who do not have any commanders or bulletins and they simply do nothing. They are not afk, they are writing that they are trollig casue it's impossible to win as Allies vs Axis. They simply do nothing as a protest against unbalance.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:12 AMSpearhead

I can't even comment on the abysimal balance - just look at the stats i just posted in another thread.

But i have a suggestion:

Introduce the KV85 as a nondoctrinal tank, that matches a Panther in price and performance. Soviet balance issues solved.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:57 AMAlpharius

That would make KV-1 tank in counterattack commander 3 completely useless

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 12:20 PMSpearhead

It is already.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 12:19 PMAlpharius

I don't think it's so hard to tweak core soviets without doing major overhauls.
But hey, it's Relic
We buff conscripts, but make them drop faster.
Then we fix some bugs, making your mediocre medium tank even worse.
And the last, get your AT guns to the graveyard.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:53 AMbroodwarjc

You see the problem isn't that the game is horribly unbalanced (It does need some work). The problem is that a number of casual players: A.Need to L2P, B.Go AFK while searching for games, and/or C.Are douche-bags. Unfortunately Relic can never solve any of those 3 problems, so there will always be unbalance complaint threads.

If you are joining a 4v4 and then proceed to do nothing as "protest", then you are a douche-bag. You are ruining the experience for 3 other people by not contributing to a team game. Guess what?! Relic is NEVER GOING TO SEE YOUR NOT PLAYING PROTEST, they don't sit there all day looking at every game played. So L2P, pay attention to your search, and quit being a douche-bag.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 12:29 PMAlpharius

Not quite. Still better than T-34-76

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 12:44 PMAustralian Magic

Why I'm feeling like you are talking to me while I'm not troll and I do my best in every game?

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 12:10 PMBabaRoga

There are only 2 issues with 4v4

1. Automatch 4v4 never has 8 equally skilled players

Allies (read Soviet) are infinitely harder for less skilled player to use
Weak player on Axis side becomes threat with heavy tanks, weak player on allies side gradually becomes worse liability and harder to carry as match progresses.

2. It's a lot easier to abuse weaknesses or OP units in team games than 1v1

Both issues are to do with core army designs and that will never change.

Same goes for 2v2

If you want balanced (playable) 4v4 game, you have to find group of players with equal skill and play amongst eachother.
Its always been like that, even in COH1.
Play custom games with friends