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T-34/76

10 Sep 2014, 04:31 AM
#21
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248



Like i said. The backbone of OKW and Wermacht is completely broken now and even more suscpetible to soviet cheese. Then the puretroll comes in complaining about the reload speed of T-3476. It is literally rubbing salt into the wounds.

This is a player that claimed OKW was easy to use only to get rushed by rifles and loses within the first 10 minutes of multiple games. Then continues to advocate against Axis thats what pisses me off.

He maxim spams each game and now this will be more effective with LMG nerfs to axis whose infantry revolves and relied upon this to great degree.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
10 Sep 2014, 04:33 AM
#22
avatar of VetLolcake

Posts: 342

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A


Because p4 costs 25 more fuel, More MP and costs more to Tech up too.

Von is just a maxim spamming whiner end of. He should be happy relic has broken axis completely. Yet he still finds something to stick his nose into

Hes on a 24 Winstreak as US and 11 Win streak as soviets. Yet he still complains. Lol
10 Sep 2014, 04:33 AM
#23
avatar of Greeb

Posts: 971

Seems that everyone here is forgetting that T34/76 can cap points.
That alone makes up for the nerf. :D

T4 was useless, now T3... Shortly, soviets will have the most simple tech tree ever.
Build T1/T2, pick commander, profit.
10 Sep 2014, 04:38 AM
#24
avatar of The_Courier

Posts: 665

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 04:33 AMGreeb
Seems that everyone here is forgetting that T34/76 can cap points.

That alone makes up for the nerf. :D

T4 was useless, now T3... Shortly, soviets will have the most simple tech tree ever.


By virtue of teching being a complete waste of fuel :D.

No but seriously, why would you even bother building T3 now? Halftrack comes too late, T-70 comes too late and dies too easily, now the T-34 can't hold its own against Axis armor anymore. It's like Relic wants us to Maxim/sniper spam into Shocks/Guards into call-ins every game and nothing else.
10 Sep 2014, 04:38 AM
#25
avatar of WiFiDi
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Posts: 3293

WTF!!! why is most of this not about the t34/76. im sure there is already a thread somewhere on this forum. where you can "cry" about whatever revelevent item you can think up. :P

don't worry guys i got this. :D
10 Sep 2014, 04:41 AM
#26
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248

What did wifi just do? o_O
10 Sep 2014, 04:42 AM
#27
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

I can tell you what he didn't do.

He didn't make the T-34/76 more competitive.
10 Sep 2014, 04:47 AM
#28
avatar of VonIvan

Posts: 2487 | Subs: 21

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 04:42 AMNapalm
I can tell you what he didn't do.

He didn't make the T-34/76 more competitive.

Funny thing is just two weeks ago I had the great idea of focusing my main strategy around T3, next thing I know it gets nerfed today. :D

But seriously Wifi or whoever is in charge of moderation why do you guys keep unbanning and banning vetlolcake? Just pull a Nullist already(Sorry I had to use thy blessethed's name who is gone from us forever, but it was needed during these desperate times). :D
10 Sep 2014, 04:51 AM
#29
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

Try the Land Lease doc. T1, T4. Open with Sniper cheese and cons, follow with a single SU85 if fighting OST. Drop fuel, spam Sherman's and profit because of speed. Snipers + M5 with Quad = #yolo
10 Sep 2014, 04:53 AM
#30
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248

Von when you gonna stream? :D
10 Sep 2014, 05:03 AM
#31
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

It was a bugfix,and justified since it was too close to p4 which was 25 fuel more.Also 2 of them could beat a panther.Now no more unless rear armour hit repeatedly.
10 Sep 2014, 05:09 AM
#32
avatar of Greeb

Posts: 971

It was a bugfix,and justified since it was too close to p4 which was 25 fuel more.


Is for that that PzIV has better AI/AT damage and much better veterancy bonuses.

T34 nerf is not justified, even if its a bugfix. Now the unit is even worse than it was.
Nobody is going to tech T3/T4 never again.
10 Sep 2014, 05:18 AM
#33
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

It was done, because soviet T3 was too appealing in comparison to call-ins who were rarely used.

The change brings some balance between that and makes T3 more "skill based" as well as allows for call-ins to now finally be used more as they were always overshadowed by the OP stuff in sov T3/T4.



KV-1 all the way.
10 Sep 2014, 05:19 AM
#34
avatar of Jaigen

Posts: 1130

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 05:09 AMGreeb


Is for that that PzIV has better AI/AT damage and much better veterancy bonuses.

T34 nerf is not justified, even if its a bugfix. Now the unit is even worse than it was.
Nobody is going to tech T3/T4 never again.


its completely justified if you see how much they both cost. i was completely amazed in the past that the t-34 was able to win from the p4
10 Sep 2014, 05:24 AM
#36
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 05:19 AMJaigen


its completely justified if you see how much they both cost. i was completely amazed in the past that the t-34 was able to win from the p4


And sherman costs 5 fuel more, got incomparably more AI power, got utility with smoke, got vet bonuses that actually matter, got pintle upgrade.

10 Sep 2014, 05:29 AM
#38
avatar of Jaigen

Posts: 1130

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 05:24 AMKatitof


And sherman costs 5 fuel more, got incomparably more AI power, got utility with smoke, got vet bonuses that actually matter, got pintle upgrade.



oh failfish strikes again. you look only at the pos but never at the cons. the sherman has to swap its rounds. if a sherman is caught with HE shells out when it engages a p4 it will lose hard because it takes around 10 seconds to swap.
10 Sep 2014, 05:40 AM
#39
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

2 T34/76s beat a panther easily in the previous patch, which may be warranted considering their cost.


A Panther is 490 / 175 while 2 T-34/76's are 620 / 200, and even then they'll only beat the Panther if it is handled exceptionally badly, or they have Mark Target. Now, they nerf it even more, and for what? Because the minor buff in the past was unplanned?

They say they're concerned about the call-in meta, but their actions do just the opposite. Why buy a 620 health 120 pen T-34/76 when you could hold out for an 800 health 160 pen T-34/85?


jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 05:19 AMJaigen
its completely justified if you see how much they both cost. i was completely amazed in the past that the t-34 was able to win from the p4


Because the Panzer IV compared to the T-34/76 has superior penetration over range, armour, accuracy, veterancy, and anti-infantry. In fact way better veterancy and immensely superior anti-infantry. Now it has better reload too.
10 Sep 2014, 06:13 AM
#40
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
Patrion 15

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A Panther is 490 / 175 while 2 T-34/76's are 620 / 200, and even then they'll only beat the Panther if it is handled exceptionally badly, or they have Mark Target. Now, they nerf it even more, and for what? Because the minor buff in the past was unplanned?

They say they're concerned about the call-in meta, but their actions do just the opposite. Why buy a 620 health 120 pen T-34/76 when you could hold out for an 800 health 160 pen T-34/85?




Because the Panzer IV compared to the T-34/76 has superior penetration over range, armour, accuracy, veterancy, and anti-infantry. In fact way better veterancy and immensely superior anti-infantry. Now it has better reload too.


It wasn't hard to kill a panther with 2 t34/76s actually, and yes, that's my point exactly, the issue here lies with the fact that call ins are waaaaay more cost effective.
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