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Unless you can push your enemy all the way back to his base and destroy it, the german player will simply keep reversing while taking pot shots at the su-85. The shocks will eventually run out of steam leaving those at guns all alone and ready to be picked off by any infantry.
3 AT guns, su 85, and shocks for support
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if you have 2 vet2/3 su85 you can take on a jt frontally if you are lucky getting a crew shock in one of the first shotsThat's a lot of ifs. One of those would probably get knocked out before they could even get into range. That would only work if you could sneak up on it a little bit. Also vet 3 SU-85s aren't that easy to come by.
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if you have 2 vet2/3 su85 you can take on a jt frontally if you are lucky getting a crew shock in one of the first shots
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Is it possible to take out with Su-85?
they get to shotted and don't always penatrate it.
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There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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Is it possible to take out with Su-85?
they get to shotted and don't always penatrate it.
) not SU power.JT should have a minimum range (if you get "under the gun", GG JT) and setup/tear down time (to be able to use 85 range) like the KV-2. I am also in favour of adding the tear down rule to ELE's and ISU's too.
JT and KT should have slightly less frontal armour, off set with a little more health. This would enable allied AT to be able to plink away at the beasts, without their virtual frontal immunity, in those situations where flanking isn't really an option.
This would solve a lot of problems.
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Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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Seems ridiculous that OKW can just A-move their forces into your while Allies need more micro + effort just to deal with all of that
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Sentences like this you hear nearly exclusively from 4vs4 players that play only one faction.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
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I have played Ostheer but mainly Soviets. I find that OKW can just get away with just infantry for the game until they build KT or Jgdt
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If you stall to a heavy as okw and if you only have infantry you're gonna have a hard time dealing with midgame tanks.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Shooting through a wall is just stupid. Plain stupid.
Thisn't a ISU vs JT topic, it's about a jagd on the field being a complete gamechanger / breaker.
2 Packs on the side or some tigers in the mix and it is impossible to deal with in 2v2.
It's just a fucked up unit, really relic.
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Shooting through a wall is just stupid. Plain stupid.
Thisn't a ISU vs JT topic, it's about a jagd on the field being a complete gamechanger / breaker.
2 Packs on the side or some tigers in the mix and it is impossible to deal with in 2v2.
It's just a fucked up unit, really relic.
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