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Panzergrenadier rework

22 Aug 2014, 20:43 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2014, 19:52 PMVaz
Panther is the best tank in this game to me.


There is no need to rub salt in the wound really,considering their true state.
Anyway back to panzergrenadiers.
22 Aug 2014, 21:14 PM
#42
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The biggest problem with PGrens is players not knowing how to use them (or sturmpioneers). I often build PGrens as Wehrmacht, but usually only 1. My standard build is:

Gren, MG42, Gren, Gren, (Sniper or Mortar or T2 Tech), T2, and a PG. Used as a flanking unit, or to slow an advance by sitting in green cover, they are amazing. Sure, they can't walk into a blob and expect to live (Which is what many players expect).

The problem with PGrens is a larger problem of long-range being much better than close-range, and the fact that shocks are popular and beat them at close range. I don't think the unit needs changes until the long-range small arms gets a look.
22 Aug 2014, 21:43 PM
#43
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PGrens are too squishy to flank themselves, and don't hit anything on the move anyways. An LMG gren works almost as well to discourage enemy flanks for less mp/popcap. No point in Pgrens really.
22 Aug 2014, 22:13 PM
#44
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PGrens are too squishy to flank themselves, and don't hit anything on the move anyways. An LMG gren works almost as well to discourage enemy flanks for less mp/popcap. No point in Pgrens really.

0.8 moving accuracy modifier is "don't hit anything on the move" now?
22 Aug 2014, 22:42 PM
#45
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Aug 2014, 22:13 PMKatitof

0.8 moving accuracy modifier is "don't hit anything on the move" now?


its .75, but they also have a .375 burst multiplier while moving as well. ill let you do the math. on the bright side, they do have a .25 cooldown modifier, though that doesnt help much.
Vaz
23 Aug 2014, 02:08 AM
#46
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That must be the result of people complaining of retreat wipes
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