PaK43 needs more Range.
11 Jul 2014, 17:11 PM
#21
Posts: 39
Nope. Only if they fix the shooting through obstacles first. I've seen the Pak43 single handedly win games on Kharkov because of that bug.
11 Jul 2014, 17:21 PM
#22
Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13
Hardly a bug, it's intended. If the Pak43 couldn't shoot through obstacles, there would barely be any places to put it except in the open leaving it pretty vulnerable which it already is given it has giant arrow over its head saying, "Bomb me!".
Could we maybe add some fuel cost in exchange for manpower? The howitzers also need this since saving up manpower isn't easy late game given how fast it can disappear in reinforcing your troops or buying units that aren't at risk to being one-shotted by off-maps because they can move.
Could we maybe add some fuel cost in exchange for manpower? The howitzers also need this since saving up manpower isn't easy late game given how fast it can disappear in reinforcing your troops or buying units that aren't at risk to being one-shotted by off-maps because they can move.
11 Jul 2014, 17:22 PM
#23
Posts: 1439
I don't know why they changed the range on PaK43 in the first place.
It's a static emplacement after all.
It's a static emplacement after all.
11 Jul 2014, 17:36 PM
#24
Posts: 273
Consider that 100 range is enough to park a PaK behind the tree line in crossing in the woods and all but hit the enemy base, too. 100 range may seem great for 4v4, but maps are a lot smaller for 1v1 and 2v2.
We have seen too many matches with 100 range Elephants and ISU-152s. Moreover; they are mobile units.. Pak deserves that kind of range due to its immobility..
11 Jul 2014, 17:54 PM
#25
Posts: 627
We have seen too many matches with 100 range Elephants and ISU-152s. Moreover; they are mobile units.. Pak deserves that kind of range due to its immobility..
And they got nerfed to 70 for a reason.
PaK remains at 80, it got the shortest end of the nerf stick, and still has a hell of a range on small maps.
11 Jul 2014, 17:59 PM
#26
Posts: 1705
Needs range because currently u don't even need off map,just enemy 120 mm or pack howitzer kill it efficiently.Its arc and turn rate are poor,so range and dmg are all its got.
11 Jul 2014, 18:03 PM
#27
Posts: 1063
Well if Relic refuse to increase its range than perhaps a price reduction is in order. At 500mp you have many other things to consider, like for OKW you can get nearly 2 Puppchen, for Ost you can get a Pak and Gren. For such a hefty price I expect it to be good, but sadly currently it maybe dmg 1 tank and then 2mins later get killed by off-map or on-map arty. B4 the nerf at least it can get at least 1 tanks.
11 Jul 2014, 18:13 PM
#28
Posts: 390
Permanently BannedYes please buff it, I want to destroy Sovjet T-34 by just right clicking... oh wait! 
11 Jul 2014, 18:19 PM
#29
Posts: 381
Yes please buff it, I want to destroy Sovjet T-34 by just right clicking... oh wait!
LOL leave ISU the way it is. I want to kill everything by just calling in one unit.
11 Jul 2014, 21:45 PM
#30
Posts: 390
Permanently BannedL2Flank dude. Let me tell you this as an Top 70 player
11 Jul 2014, 22:28 PM
#31
Posts: 366
L2Flank dude. Let me tell you this as an Top 70 player
omg
top 70, teach me master how to flank isu backed up by atguns
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11 Jul 2014, 22:28 PM
#32
Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7
top 70 in 3v3 ARRANGED team wow so good
11 Jul 2014, 23:02 PM
#33
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
Pak43 and Ele moar range? nein nein nein!
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11 Jul 2014, 23:06 PM
#34
Posts: 1637
Pak43 and Ele moar range? nein nein nein!
I agree with the Ele but the Pak is soo damn easy to kill. It needs something. If not range then something else.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
12 Jul 2014, 00:00 AM
#35
Posts: 4928
L2Flank dude. Let me tell you this as an Top 70 player
I hope you're just taking the piss.
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12 Jul 2014, 00:26 AM
#36
Posts: 184
+10000, Don't know why they nerfed it.
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12 Jul 2014, 00:27 AM
#37
Posts: 1122
Pak 43 fine as it is. Srsly, it costs only 500 mp, no fuel, 2-shots tanks, fires through obstacles, covers large area of the map, and with vet and sturm officers buff shoots faster than hmg. Also, afair 5vet bonuses gives pak 43 +range twice.
Arty and mortars which supposed to counter pak 43 (which arty and mortars? vet 1 b4 with precision strike?) already hard countered by Stuka zu Fuss.
Also top 5 3v3 player
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Arty and mortars which supposed to counter pak 43 (which arty and mortars? vet 1 b4 with precision strike?) already hard countered by Stuka zu Fuss.
Also top 5 3v3 player
(who cares, anyway)
12 Jul 2014, 00:48 AM
#38
Posts: 184
Oh yeah your right. Only 500 mp. People should just build 3 of them. Covers large area of map? it covers like one point. Maybe if it had a faster turning speed the range is not needed.
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12 Jul 2014, 00:51 AM
#39
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
On the flip side, it is now only 10 supply. It is now not unreasonable to build 2 of them in a 1v1 game.
12 Jul 2014, 01:02 AM
#40
Posts: 1122
Only 500 mp. People should just build 3 of them.
And whats the point? You can build 3 paks 43 if you want and backed up with your team support they can cover entire map. For 0 fuel. In 1v1 situation is quite different, but again, for it damage pak 43 still good even in 1v1.
Covers large area of map? it covers like one point.
If you build them not between victory points and somewhere far behind then probably yes. But who you should blame for this? Pak range?
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