Riflemen eating Volks!
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on 1v1 they just beat volks very easy and after bars or browning... just lol ))
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US only has 2 starting combat units, i think its fair.
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You are supposed to sit behind cover at all times with volks(no cover is no excuse, you can make it yourself) and support them with other squads and Kubel/sturmpios.
They didn't worked alone in vCoH, they won't work alone here.
They are basically axis version of conscripts, except volks do scale into late game.
Use multitude of doctrinal infantry or go for ubersoldaten.
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Do you know how much time and fuel you need to get Obers? or How much MP to get Falls and reinforce them?
What about hero units of USA? They can't counter signle Falls squad?
Dual or tripple riflemen just killing MG so easy and also its doctrinal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So hard to guess?
Katitof
but Riflemen are too numberous, looks like they don't die. Also moving medic/reinforce car makes them unstoppable ))
omg why people always think only for themselves.
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but Riflemen are too numberous, looks like they don't die. Also moving medic/reinforce car makes them unstoppable ))
3 rifle squads are standard. Anything more and attrition will be unbearable for USF. Kubel will secure you early wins when he is spread for capping, Flak truck with puppchen/shreck volk and sturmpio support will clear what remains if he goes for more rifles or his own AA HT.
omg why people always think only for themselves.
That relates to you not understanding the balance between the units how exactly?
Why won't you play at least 20 games with the faction and watch some streams before calling balance issues that are not balance issues? Its the shortest way to become lolcake disciple.
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Personaly I only get volks if i can upgrade them ASAP, otherwise they are just useless capping units.
They need a direct or indirect buff.
And Katitof, even Hans thinks Volks are pretty much useless.
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Of course you know you should stall a little with units from T1 not converting the second truck to soon.... do you?!
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have you played as US?
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And Katitof, even Hans thinks Volks are pretty much useless.
To be fair, Hans also spams Pumas and rushes two Pumas front on into two T34 and blames luck when it doesn't work.
I am not saying with that that Hans is a bad player, I just think he lost patience with OKW a bit too early and needs some more practice with it, just like the rest of us.
Personally I don't consider Volksgrenadier a very effective anti infantry unit. I build just two of them to upgrade them later to Panzerschreck, and use them otherwise to cap or to draw fire while flanking with Sturmpioniere, build sandbags for other units or let them fight in support with other stuff.
I just try to survive with what I have, use Kübelwagen and stuff until I can get better infantry units (Panzerfüsilier, Fallschirmjäger, Obersoldaten).
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And Katitof, even Hans thinks Volks are pretty much useless.
First, volks used to be even worse, they have bad start, but as I've said, they do scale well.
Volks are not and will not be self sufficient infantry, they NEED another unit next to them.
And second, seeing how effectively Hans plays OKW makes me so I'll simply ignore his opinions until I will see him getting right units and trucks against right BOs/army, because LOLMEDITRUCK is not always the best idea.
He does have better micro and awareness then me, but he doesn't seem to get OKW at all.
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They are alone however, more often in 1 v 1.
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Relic, just fix that shit please...
on 1v1 they just beat volks very easy and after bars or browning... just lol ))
It's fine as it is!!!
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Duplicates or useless bulletins... played about 3 hours and got nothing... lol
You really can't play for more than 3 hours before complaining about the balance?
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No, they will not beat Riflemen in 1vs1, but you shouldn't take on 1vs1 engagements in the first place.
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Permanently BannedIf volks get buff and can do war alone, the game will be unbalanced...
Early game is a problem for OKW, but if you hold......
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I think volks are poor units but this is ok, okw have others good options, volks are a unit to work with others...
If volks get buff and can do war alone, the game will be unbalanced...
Early game is a problem for OKW, but if you hold......
+1. Exactly.
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