Disappointed with OKWs extra commanders

There's no issue with new units being redundant. A panzer III and puma are different vehicles that have different roles/properties/costs/availability, although Kaitof thinks they are virtually the same vehicles.

There are many ways to redesign the stats and uniqueness of both vehicles. The PIII would of course be cheaper (reflecting it's actual production and availability, even though it's an out of date vehicle).

Included vehicles and units should represent how many were used at that theatre of war.
Just because a vehicle was "redundant" it didnt mean armies would throw it away and never use it again. Of course they recycled and still used it until all were destroyed.

I think commanders should have unique/new vehicles, even if they "replace" the role of core units to some extent. It gives variety, and it wouldn't affect balance too much since it's based on commander choice. You'd think that DLC would offer even some aesthetic variation of units...

A $4-6 DLC commander that actually adds something new (vehicle, soldier model, etc), except a remix of stock abilities/vehicles, would be far more justified. Even with a price raise to $10.

I think commanders should have unique/new vehicles, even if they "replace" the role of core units to some extent. It gives variety, and it wouldn't affect balance too much since it's based on commander choice. You'd think that DLC would offer even some aesthetic variation of units...

Yeah there is no Point in relics Recycling tactic and bore us to death with old Ostheer stuff in a new faction.

Scavenge doctrine is the best, who wouldn't like to be commanded by some pio mechanic?

The hyperbole is strong with this one.

there are plenty of new units in the game.

Can anyone say how does this OKW bunker looks like?

Carbon copy of ostheer

Actually, the new P4 is different than the Ostheer P4.

Actually, the new P4 is different than the Ostheer P4.

This is true, however the pak 43 and bunker are copies.

I enjoyed all of the unlockable commanders when I used them in Alpha and the Fortifications Doctrine is almost necessary in 3v3 or 4v4 if you don't have an Ostheer player on your team since Pak43 can do so much work vs. medium armor.

Scavenge doctrine is the best, who wouldn't like to be commanded by some pio mechanic?

Well, speaking of this doctrine, imagine the(justified) rage if people knew old Jeager Light Infantry.

And for the ones who do not know them:

Scout car sight range.
Sniper shooting range.
Permanent oorah.
G43s.
Insane long range accuracy.
Could outrun tanks.
2-5sec deccaping territories.
Cheap.

Dat elite troops reskin art
/lazy

Flak 88 would be a great add, but I'm ok with how it is now.
Plus guys, I really think more is coming our way.

German units who are not in the game yet:

-Jagdpanther
-Hetzer
-Marder III
-Goliath
-Panzer III
-Nashorn
-StuH 42
-V1 Rocket
-Hummel
-FlaK 88
-Pak 44
-Wirbelwind
-Nebelwerfer
-210mm Mörser 18 Arty
-AND MORE

Is this enough or should i Name more?

Instead of adding These new toys relic adds the Ostwind Flakpanzer and the Pak 43 to OKW.

Why would they add units whos roles are already filled by other units in the game? That's a waste of development time and makes no sense.

Cause it is supposed to be a new game you paid for. Just imagine paying a LoL champion which got the same ultimate as another. Is is too much to ask a relic man to just move his ass to do a new bunker model, or to make a new model for a tank that could replace already existing model ? That would just be more fun, that is all.

What happen when the two Pz IV don't have the same stats and you see one as Rus/USA ? How you differentiate it quickly ?

OMG, relic using the same portrait for different commanders.

LETS SUE RELIC

Are we complaining about free commanders? Wow. Entitled much?

Those new Soviet commanders look great.

Cause it is supposed to be a new game you paid for. Just imagine paying a LoL champion which got the same ultimate as another. Is is too much to ask a relic man to just move his ass to do a new bunker model, or to make a new model for a tank that could replace already existing model ? That would just be more fun, that is all.

What happen when the two Pz IV don't have the same stats and you see one as Rus/USA ? How you differentiate it quickly ?

Yes ist too much to ask for.

It also seems we have many Ostwind fans here in the Forum who dont want to see new Units. The Ostwind Mafia just wanna spam Ostwinds until the end of time.

Yes ist too much to ask for.

It also seems we have many Ostwind fans here in the Forum who dont want to see new Units. The Ostwind Mafia just wanna spam Ostwinds until the end of time.

Hey so does the OKW Ostwind have 5 levels of vet? And the PzIV Ausf J, are they comparable to T-34/85?