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Panzergranadiers!!! Does it worth ?

20 Jun 2014, 22:08 PM
#61
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

They do need to fix the PPSh. Yes, it does massive damage, but the way it's currently formed is extremely gimmicky. The length of one T-70 is the difference between max damage and minimal damage. How is that logical?

The range is so short that if you took the 2 furthest-most squad members and made them shoot at each other, they'd be doing roughly 15% damage to each other.
20 Jun 2014, 22:10 PM
#62
avatar of Katitof

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Swords aren´t suppose to kill people at distance.


You're wrong here, because you've never seen shock troops at works.

Let me help you here by posting a screenshot of shock successfully flanking gren:

20 Jun 2014, 23:38 PM
#63
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

Swords aren´t suppose to kill people at distance.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Conscript ppsh need to go back to 2 per squad and increase range of effect.They tried to compensate 3 ppsh massive dmg by reducing range to melee level.
21 Jun 2014, 01:14 AM
#64
avatar of JHeartless

Posts: 1637


Mission accomplished.


Except thats not what happens. What happens is the Gren stays does damn good damage until its down to one model then hits retreat because its a free magical forcefield all the way home. Its more of that Nazi occultism!

Invisible Cloak for Panzers? Check
Magic Spell of Veterancy? Check
Physics ignoring Magic Bullet in the Pak43? Check
Cloak of Protection +5 vs PPSH? Check

:rofl:
21 Jun 2014, 01:16 AM
#65
avatar of JHeartless

Posts: 1637

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Jun 2014, 22:10 PMKatitof


You're wrong here, because you've never seen shock troops at works.

Let me help you here by posting a screenshot of shock successfully flanking gren:



This is also what Pgrens do on the flank

:banana:
21 Jun 2014, 02:01 AM
#66
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928



Except thats not what happens. What happens is the Gren stays does damn good damage until its down to one model then hits retreat because its a free magical forcefield all the way home. Its more of that Nazi occultism!

Invisible Cloak for Panzers? Check
Magic Spell of Veterancy? Check
Physics ignoring Magic Bullet in the Pak43? Check
Cloak of Protection +5 vs PPSH? Check

:rofl:



The hell are you on about? Did you lose your mind? Too much theorycrafting and favouratism?

Besides, Soviets get retreat buffs to, everyone does. Literally everyone...
21 Jun 2014, 02:43 AM
#67
avatar of JHeartless

Posts: 1637

Retreat buff plus PPSH damage profile minus 3 mosin nagants equals 99% less squad whipes on retreat. Thought it was pretty obvious to anyone who uses PPSH this patch.
21 Jun 2014, 09:14 AM
#68
avatar of Cannonade

Posts: 752

My joke was that anything and everything that is retreated before it is in range of enemy weapons, will take no damage.

That may or may not have been Katitofs point as well.
21 Jun 2014, 09:44 AM
#69
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

^that pretty much was my point as well.
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