70 seems a bit harsh, I would have though 80 would be enough
It's logical. Panther, Stug - 50, SU-85 - 60. What's next? Obviously 70.
But certanly not 100.
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13 Jun 2014, 09:55 AM
#801
Posts: 61
It's logical. Panther, Stug - 50, SU-85 - 60. What's next? Obviously 70.
But certanly not 100.
13 Jun 2014, 13:45 PM
#802
Posts: 1571
The Tiger & IS-2 @ the same health means nearly mirrored units..(with the edge going to the IS-2.
70 is on the short side, don't have an opinion on that.
PS:
Puma sucks at ISU flanking!
70 is on the short side, don't have an opinion on that.
PS:
Puma sucks at ISU flanking!
13 Jun 2014, 15:37 PM
#803
Posts: 1705
IS-2's hp buffed, Tyger's - nerfed.
Most likely they're got the same hp now (1040), while KT got 1280. I do not know the numbers, so it's just speculation.
About ISU-152 and KV-2. Range nerfed to 70 (in KV case - in artillery mod). Unexpectedly, I haven't seen confirmation of Ferdinand range nerf.
Same price is-2 and tiger?So right now is-2 will beat any ostheer tank?
ISU even with 70 range will 1 shot at guns
13 Jun 2014, 15:42 PM
#804
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Same price is-2 and tiger?So right now is-2 will beat any ostheer tank?
ISU even with 70 range will 1 shot at guns
not if you are using the pak43 with 80 range
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13 Jun 2014, 15:46 PM
#805
Posts: 1042
Forgot to mention - SU-76 range also was nerfed.Unconfirmed.
If that happens then the SU-76 will be dead. The only thing going for it against tanks is that it can outrange german armour if played well enough. If it has the same range it's useless because all german armour have better guns, armour and HP than the SU-76.
God if that happens I will be so mad! More damned pigeon holing!
13 Jun 2014, 17:51 PM
#806
Posts: 148
Awesome Relic -- good job. Buff Soviet Armor (which was needed) and nerf Panthers in 4 different ways in the same patch.
Constructively killed the Panther and now nerfing the Tiger so it can be countered by 2 T34s (less fuel than a Tiger and better at anti-infantry).
Just brilliant.
Constructively killed the Panther and now nerfing the Tiger so it can be countered by 2 T34s (less fuel than a Tiger and better at anti-infantry).
Just brilliant.
I hear is-2 is getting buffed and tiger nerfed next patch..well..is-2 will probably be next isu.
13 Jun 2014, 17:59 PM
#807
Posts: 1705
So tiger nerfed,panther finished.
What are we to fight t-34/85s,shermans,su-85,kv-2,is-2 and isu-152s with?
Panzer 4s?
Just nerf the grenadiers and end the ostheer once and for all.
What are we to fight t-34/85s,shermans,su-85,kv-2,is-2 and isu-152s with?
Panzer 4s?
Just nerf the grenadiers and end the ostheer once and for all.
13 Jun 2014, 17:59 PM
#808
Posts: 2053
The Tiger can solo any unit. KV-2 has even less means to be made, i see, so now it is a 100% poor choice.
As for volksgrenadiers, i did not catch their popcap or price. The video isnt up anymore.
As for volksgrenadiers, i did not catch their popcap or price. The video isnt up anymore.
13 Jun 2014, 18:02 PM
#809
Posts: 4928
I just checked the video, Volksgrenadiers were 7 pop cap.
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13 Jun 2014, 18:04 PM
#810
Posts: 1705
The Tiger can solo any unit. KV-2 has even less means to be made, i see, so now it is a 100% poor choice.
As for volksgrenadiers, i did not catch their popcap or price. The video isnt up anymore.
So what's the alternative to tiger?None.
Germans have 3 tanks.
pz4 can't compete after mid early late game.Not with call ins and heavies.Can't even kill inf.
Panther is useless pricey.
Tiger last tank standing....take that out and u might as well say ostheer needs no lategame.
13 Jun 2014, 18:04 PM
#811
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Posts: 951
Dare I whisper it... German players need to micro their armour now.
13 Jun 2014, 18:05 PM
#812
10 Posts: 871
Where are people getting all this crap from about buffs and nerfs?
German whiners are getting a little annoying. Germans have had superior armour for pretty much the entire game, finally we are getting more balanced armour and all you can do is cry.... Much L2P needed I suspect.
German whiners are getting a little annoying. Germans have had superior armour for pretty much the entire game, finally we are getting more balanced armour and all you can do is cry.... Much L2P needed I suspect.
13 Jun 2014, 18:06 PM
#813
Posts: 1705
Dare I whisper it... German players need to micro their armour now.
What micro?Do u think t-34/85 and sherman swarming needs micro....lol.
You think isu-152 needs micro..lol.
And now it seems is-2 can solo everything with buff and tiger nerf.
13 Jun 2014, 18:06 PM
#814
Posts: 1571
Maybe nerf Ostheer so people will go out to buy OKW? heh heh.
13 Jun 2014, 18:07 PM
#815
Posts: 578
maybe its relics plan to nerf ostheer to the ground to make People buy WFA OKW faction?
13 Jun 2014, 18:07 PM
#816
4 Posts: 951
Where are people getting all this crap from about buffs and nerfs?
I suspect alpha leakage for TWA
13 Jun 2014, 18:07 PM
#817
Posts: 1705
I just checked the video, Volksgrenadiers were 7 pop cap.
Ah thanks.I was asking coz they are OKW AT infantry and will have to remain till lategame,small upkeep is necessary thus.Especially with OKW super tanks.
13 Jun 2014, 18:07 PM
#818
10 Posts: 871
I suspect alpha leakage for TWA
You in the Alpha out of interest?
13 Jun 2014, 18:08 PM
#819
Posts: 1705
Where are people getting all this crap from about buffs and nerfs?
German whiners are getting a little annoying. Germans have had superior armour for pretty much the entire game, finally we are getting more balanced armour and all you can do is cry.... Much L2P needed I suspect.
Haha, what balanced armour?
With tiger nerf..there is no ostheer armour left to balance.
13 Jun 2014, 18:09 PM
#820
Posts: 2053
So what's the alternative to tiger?None.
Germans have 3 tanks.
pz4 can't compete after mid early late game.Not with call ins and heavies.Can't even kill inf.
Panther is useless pricey.
Tiger last tank standing....take that out and u might as well say ostheer needs no lategame.
So the best choice is making the Tiger the best tank, much better than its same-priced counterpart?
And German Tier 3 is 100% viable. German tier 4 is the one that sucks. Pz IV can compete the entire game, you must have mistaken the t34. A well microed ostwind can harrass infantry, and a stug is still fairly decent for its price and efficiency.
Oh wait. I micro my tanks.
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