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2 Jun 2014, 17:23 PM
#341
avatar of Kyle

Posts: 322

Some of my opinion about the US:

- US base is kinda ugly. Thank god that we spawn from off map now, not building.

- Right now the only thing you can do with US is to spawn Rifleman at the begining.

- US bunker is ( Wait, can I even talk about that stuff yet ? )

- M20 Ultility seems kinda useless to me. I would rather lost some of it ability and have something like a M8.

- Sherman is like a T34 + KV8 combine: Shitty against tank but good against infantry if you switch to HE round.

- Paratroopers without the M1 Recoiless rifle is kinda... meh ? ANd compare to the *****, you will feel that they are way more useless ( can't say )

- I really really dislike the ideal of .50cal MW2 Browning as a base unit. I mean watch WW2 movies like " Band of brothers " , " The Pacific ", you will see that most of the time it was the .30cal dude ! Why would you want to drop something heavy like that with the paratroopers ? ( IN my opinion, they fucked up this ideal like when they made the Penal Batalion: Shitty infantry with high end Rifle )


It should be a call in unit like the Russian version ( Maybe it will fit for some Armor Doctrine )



I think whatever I said has been stream so no problem to me right ?

" Sturmtiger, the king Tiger, and the Infrared Halftracks "

About OKW

- Sturmtiger is a joke. I would rather it have a way lower power, reload without danger then what it does right now. I mean come on, when you make the Elephant you have a Solid tank counter, ISU as a solid infantry + medium tanks killer.

- King Tiger ..... is a King Tiger. You just don't want to **** with that. Best way to use it is to have a good support

- Infared Halftracks takes sometimes to set up and got the armor like the 222 scout car.




2 Jun 2014, 17:24 PM
#342
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618

The OkW is under NDA entirely except for the Sturmtiger, the king Tiger, and the Infrared Halftracks. Plz stop asking questions about anything else as they can't be answered.
2 Jun 2014, 17:31 PM
#343
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

How long is the set up / pack up time on the Infrared Half-Trackm and what's the health and armour like?
2 Jun 2014, 17:38 PM
#344
avatar of MoerserKarL
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The king tiger is a legend und you can't kill a legend :P ;D
2 Jun 2014, 17:43 PM
#345
avatar of coh2player

Posts: 1571

Infrared halftrack: what is its abilities outside of the maphack that was shown?

2 Jun 2014, 17:45 PM
#346
avatar of Jawohl

Posts: 43

jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 17:23 PMKyle
Some of my opinion about the US:
- Sturmtiger is a joke. I would rather it have a way lower power, reload without danger then what it does right now. I mean come on, when you make the Elephant you have a Solid tank counter, ISU as a solid infantry + medium tanks killer.

It is for fun, especially for 4v4 lovers
2 Jun 2014, 17:50 PM
#347
avatar of Kyle

Posts: 322

The king tiger is a legend und you can't kill a legend :P ;D


Well acutally if you have 3 US AT gun with AP round, you can easy kill the King Tiger head on after a few round


Infrared halftrack: what is its abilities outside of the maphack that was shown?


Sorry, I don't use that a lot


jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 17:45 PMJawohl

It is for fun, especially for 4v4 lovers


Well true, but for a 2vs2 players like me, I rather go will something like another King Tiger to domination the base.

2 Jun 2014, 17:52 PM
#348
avatar of coh2player

Posts: 1571

Another question: Sturmtiger. The reload is supposed to be mega long, but can you 'control' the reload?

Eg. Fire the shell, and then evacuate the ST to your base, and then reload it there.
2 Jun 2014, 17:54 PM
#349
avatar of Kyle

Posts: 322

Another question: Sturmtiger. The reload is supposed to be mega long, but can you 'control' the reload?

Eg. Fire the shell, and then evacuate the ST to your base, and then reload it there.


Until they stream it, I'm not gonna risk it. Sorry.

Question about US units ( some of they that have been stream only ) and the airborne doctrine is fine.
2 Jun 2014, 17:59 PM
#350
avatar of Jawohl

Posts: 43

jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 17:54 PMKyle


Until they stream it, I'm not gonna risk it. Sorry.

Question about US units ( some of they that have been stream only ) and the airborne doctrine is fine.

Can someone explain the utility of nda now?(also for freaking text info)
2 Jun 2014, 18:13 PM
#351
avatar of Stafkeh
Patrion 14

Posts: 1006

We have seen most of the US stuff. What can we ask more aobout it.. Or its under NDA or we know it already. That NDA is working on my nerves.
2 Jun 2014, 18:15 PM
#352
avatar of BeltFedWombat
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Posts: 951

The NDA is kind of pointless now in my humble, but it's their sandpit so I'll respect the rules.

Most of what I would say is fairly positive, although of course there is still tweaking to be done. My main concern is the kind of queeny-OTT wailing we'll get because the Alpha testing pool is quite small.

Like I said, I would love to say more but I like alpha-testing, did it on CoH2 and would like to do it in future. So I am bound by the Relic code of Canuck Omerta for now.

2 Jun 2014, 18:48 PM
#353
avatar of DarthBong420

Posts: 381

The NDA is kind of pointless now in my humble, but it's their sandpit so I'll respect the rules.

Most of what I would say is fairly positive, although of course there is still tweaking to be done. My main concern is the kind of queeny-OTT wailing we'll get because the Alpha testing pool is quite small.

Like I said, I would love to say more but I like alpha-testing, did it on CoH2 and would like to do it in future. So I am bound by the Relic code of Canuck Omerta for now.



Wish it was open beta for the last two weeks. Its hard to get matches no matter what mode/faction you are playing.
2 Jun 2014, 18:58 PM
#354
avatar of What Doth Life?!
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 17:23 PMKyle
- M20 Utility seems kinda useless to me. I would rather lost some of it ability and have something like a M8.


Keeping NDA in mind, M20 was shown on the Relic stream and you see it spawns with smoke, AT mines, Skirt upgrade available and the crew has a bazooka. This has been my favorite unit in the Alpha besides the M8 Howitzer Carriage and Sturmpioneers.
2 Jun 2014, 18:59 PM
#355
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

I hope Kubelwagens will be able to help counter Soviet T1. OH's most awkward point is that they can only use Infantry to counter a building designed to counter their Infantry.
2 Jun 2014, 19:09 PM
#356
avatar of FriedRise

Posts: 132

jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2014, 17:54 PMKyle


Until they stream it, I'm not gonna risk it. Sorry.

Question about US units ( some of they that have been stream only ) and the airborne doctrine is fine.


The Sturmtiger is on the list that you can talk about, including "Risk/rewards - Sturmtiger reloading", so feel free :-)

The full list of new things that people can talk about is here:
http://www.coh2.org/topic/17959/hands-on-western-fronts-armies/post/158985
2 Jun 2014, 19:19 PM
#357
avatar of __deleted__

Posts: 807

Im looking forward to OKW army more than US. Us was my least favorite in coh1 and PE my most.


Hahaha, you're a masochistic little one, aren't you?
2 Jun 2014, 19:37 PM
#358
avatar of BeltFedWombat
Patrion 14

Posts: 951

Yeah, the Sturmtiger is a sort of trololol unit, a novelty for very specific situations (for example you want to deploy a tactical nuke). Yes, you can drive it away to reload and if you don't it can get knocked out and captured by a humble 'zooka team (like the little tykes who cut about in M20s).

The players who get the most out of it nanny it into position with an escort, nuke everything and run away. One for team games, I suspect.
2 Jun 2014, 19:46 PM
#359
avatar of Von Kluge
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Sturmtiger is great fun for ambushes though... Imagine what this thing can do when it thunders out of a blizzard (if there are winter maps for obw ofcourse) and says hi :snfCHVGame:
2 Jun 2014, 19:52 PM
#360
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

Sturmtiger is great fun for ambushes though... Imagine what this thing can do when it thunders out of a blizzard (if there are winter maps for obw ofcourse) and says hi :snfCHVGame:


Who says it needs to come out? It could just express mail a gift as long as you have the address!
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