T34/85 is way too overpowered(proof inside)

Please not this "holier then thou" discussion again...

Ok, enough of this crap about who was better than who. In war, there are no saints. History is written by the victor, so America has decided who is better than who. Poland could have been an excuse if anyone actually cared about Poles. Polaks dont even like other Polaks. Nobody cares about the people the USSR killed for no reason. Everybody remembers Communism being bad, but that is about it. It is all about the Jews. The millions of Jews sent to concentration camps specifically made to ensure that their death is as miserable and painful as possible. German Jews, Polish Jews, all the Jews. That is what people remember. Not tens of thousands of Slavics getting executed for being too smart and considered a threat, whose bodies were disposed like unwanted trash. The civilians killed during Communist rule, they are not as important to society as the Holocaust. That is why the Nazis are considered worse than the Soviets. No one cares a flying fuck for who the Soviets killed. Mainly, because they did such a good job of hiding it. But as i said, last time i checked, the Holocaust was considered the most disturbing aspect of WW2.

Christ this is worse than being on Youtube.

Can an admin just, end this misery?

Pretty much all sides commit atrocities, still do. War is messed up, it damages peeople, then they do twisted things.


The difference with Germans and Soviets, is the fact on the German side it was conceived and organised by the top commanders and extremely organised. Thats why it is so disgusting.

War is horrifically brutal.

the dropping of A-bombs was probaly the most humane way to deal with japan.

If japan was to be invaded, it would of cost hundreds of thousands of american troop lives and millions of japanese lives.

Lets remember the japanese were ready to equip their civilians with spears and charge at the americans....

So while the a-bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was one of the worst things to happen, it was probaly the most humane thing to do in that situation..


Also, while soviet union might of been brutal, it was not nearly as brutal as the nazis.

mainly because they did not want to exterminate entire populations. Oh, and btw i come from a family that suffered under the soviet regime. Parts of my family were sent to gulag.

Also the t-34/85 was fairly adequate againts tiger tanks, however still not as good againts panthers.

What did Stalin think about it?

One mans death ... thousands ... hmmm "statistics"?

"One Man's death is a tragedy, thousand's death is a statistic"

I would love to see those orginanised plans for mass extermination that you people claim german SS commanders had and did. Yeah i seen the documantaries too but i have never seen hard evidence of orders of mass extermination like you guys claim. Remember allies had broken the german enigma code so if extermination on that scale really happened why are we never presented with an intercepted transmission?

I would love to see those orginanised plans for mass extermination that you people claim german SS commanders had and did. Yeah i seen the documantaries too but i have never seen hard evidence of orders of mass extermination like you guys claim. Remember allies had broken the german enigma code so if extermination on that scale really happened why are we never presented with an intercepted transmission?

Then you're welcome to take a tour to poland, to german concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau in Oświecim and see it for yourself. Maybe seeing the gas chambers, crematoria and products made out of humans will beat some sense into your head.

I'm usually smart enough to not get into this kind of discussions, but statements like yours makes me want to kick you so hard in the ass that you will know how my shoe taste like.

I would love to see those orginanised plans for mass extermination that you people claim german SS commanders had and did. Yeah i seen the documantaries too but i have never seen hard evidence of orders of mass extermination like you guys claim. Remember allies had broken the german enigma code so if extermination on that scale really happened why are we never presented with an intercepted transmission?

Jesus Christ, you take german fanboyism to a new level. We know you like Germany but could you stop denying the holocaust plz?

Oh look, bunch of guys proving absolutely nothing.

Sigh,

This thread is absolutely disgusting and proof that the CoH community is the worst pile of manure in gaming. A handful of nazi apologist came out of the closet long ago and yet the moderators don't do anything about it.

Anyone with an SS pseudo should be banned and also that idiot Spajn singing praises about the third reich.

Isn't this site run by germans and hosted by german servers (not sure where it is hosted and which laws apply)? Isn't it illegal in Germany to praise the reich, nazism or hitler, do a nazi salute, use the swastika or SS emblems, yet it is recurrent to see some users use this with impunity.

May I remind the coh2.org staff their own rules:

COH2.ORG TERMS OF USE

"COH2.ORG's philosophy is to allow open discussion amongst our embers. Disrupting that open discussion by spamming, flaming, excessively trolling, creating more than one account, posting offensive content, being disrespectful to developers or other users and behaviors similar to these are not tolerated and will be dealt with by moderators with suspensions, or in egregious situations, bans. Banned users will not be allowed to take part in the events that we host such as tournaments and Sunday Night Fights.

We have a zero-tolerance policy for racism, sexism, homophobia, pornography, and defamation of other users. Use common sense when you post."

Stop procrastinating, it's time to clean the house.

I would like a moderator to kindly answer my inquiry and then lock this thread as it has seriously derailed from T-34/85 performance into dubious arguing and hate speech.

...Agree. And may this moderator be so kind to distinguish between historical debates (based on historical knowledge of the ones who post) and posts that are referring to "racism, sexism, homophobia, pornography". No offense, I can chose what nickname I want, even "asshole" if that is my desire, having nothing to do with my historical opinions which, by the way, as you can read, are objective.

...Agree. And may this moderator be so kind to distinguish between historical debates (based on historical knowledge of the ones who post) and posts that are referring to "racism, sexism, homophobia, pornography".

Using the SS tag is inherently racist. Maybe you don't realise what the SS was or did based on your biased historical knowledge.

the dropping of A-bombs was probaly the most humane way to deal with japan.
If japan was to be invaded, it would of cost hundreds of thousands of american troop lives and millions of japanese lives.

Actually estimates ran into the millions for American troops, and much much higher for the Japanese. Here's a fun fact for you: 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of this invasion, we still have over 100,000 left today.

This thread is absolutely disgusting and proof that the CoH community is the worst pile of manure in gaming.

Try a Free-to-Play game, or a MOBA, those types attract the absolute worst people. CoH's community doesn't come close.

Anyone with an SS pseudo should be banned and also that idiot Spajn singing praises about the third reich.

This is just unnecessary and would only divide the community along faction lines further. "Why doesn't the guy with "Guard" in his name get banned?", "Why is the guy denying Soviet genocide not banned too?", etc.

...Agree. And may this moderator be so kind to distinguish between historical debates (based on historical knowledge of the ones who post) and posts that are referring to "racism, sexism, homophobia, pornography". No offense, I can chose what nickname I want, even "asshole" if that is my desire, having nothing to do with my historical opinions which, by the way, as you can read, are objective.

Have to agree with Frencho here.

I bet you always hang up your Swastika above your PC while playing CoH2. That would also explain your annoying attitude and german biased opinions. You better go to school and learn in history class what the people in the past did using your "SS" Tag. Maybe your pro German opinion will change.

the dropping of A-bombs was probaly the most humane way to deal with japan

Every time I hear this argument I lose a little more faith in our species (and I hear it a lot...)

Just goes to show how effective propaganda is in distorting what is considered "moral"

Every time I hear this argument I lose a little more faith in our species (and I hear it a lot...)

Just goes to show how effective propaganda is in distorting what is considered "moral"

Beats american incendiary bat bomb for sure(which proved to actually work, but were never used because, you know, a-bombs).

Every time I hear this argument I lose a little more faith in our species (and I hear it a lot...)

Just goes to show how effective propaganda is in distorting what is considered "moral"

so in your eyes, millions of people dying by gunfire is bad, but even less dying by nukes is even worse?

Like, i'm not saying anything, but why would you prefer if more people died?

I'm not american btw. I'm open to new ideas, please educate me,i'm just confused why you would prefer if more people would of died.

This community is so damn fucked up, unbelievable.

This community is so damn fucked up, unbelievable.

You're accusing other members of being Nazi based on a username and faction preference, you are one of the worst parts of the community.