ISU-152
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23 Jun 2014, 11:40 AM
#661
Posts: 1701
Tiger vs ISU? No problem, guards button + AT nade, gg.
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23 Jun 2014, 18:20 PM
#662
Posts: 4928
RIP ISU meta.
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23 Jun 2014, 18:29 PM
#663
Posts: 410
ISU range from 100 to 70. But nothing about Squad wiping?
I can't see nothing in the change log.
I can't see nothing in the change log.
23 Jun 2014, 18:29 PM
#664
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Changelog says all AOE on range has been decreased
ISU range from 100 to 70. But nothing about Squad wiping?
I can't see nothing in the change log.
Changelog says all AOE on range has been decreased
24 Jun 2014, 15:15 PM
#665
Posts: 390
Permanently BannedTiger vs ISU? No problem, guards button + AT nade, gg.
Units worth over 1000 MP vs 1 Tiger? I don't see a problem here. Please don't believe that you have Wunderwaffen in CoH2, it's still a game, not the realization of your weird Wehrmacht fantasy fan fiction.
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24 Jun 2014, 18:14 PM
#667
Posts: 783 | Subs: 3
Supposedly the AOE changes make it harder for the ISU to wipe squads but my first 3 shots from the ISU all wiped squads.
That idiot thought he won. In fact, he was wrong. Completely mistaken.No M3 he what things are not，just one moron.
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The German oil scarcity, rare tanks cannot fight the Allied torrent. Kill the house to kill the German oil.
Every time lose may feel bad. Probably not the word lose your subconscious. Maybe I win you Not for the first time Maybe you you should go to recall,
24 Jun 2014, 18:41 PM
#668
Posts: 381
Supposedly the AOE changes make it harder for the ISU to wipe squads but my first 3 shots from the ISU all wiped squads.
Yea I loaded up a custom game and there is no difference in the squad whipes once in range.
24 Jun 2014, 19:39 PM
#669
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
Come down ladies, range got nerfed to 70, they are niche units once again.
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24 Jun 2014, 19:54 PM
#670
Posts: 100
In my opinion range nerf of ISU and Ele is overall an ISU Buff and an Ele Nerf, because ISU is good against Infantry and armor and Elefant is just good against armor. Although Spotting Scope isnt that useful anymore.
30 Jul 2014, 16:42 PM
#671
Posts: 1
Nice pic i also have a nice pic about what was left from an ISU-152 after he meet some german tanks on the battlefield:
Destroyed ISU-152 after a fight with german tanks:
By the way blowing enemies turret off was nothing Special in WW2.ISU-152 werent the only vehicle that could blew a turret from a tank:
KV-2 wreck:
T-34 wreck:
IS-2 wreck:
IS-2 after a fight with german tanks:
15 IS-2's knocked out frontally from a distance of 1,500m by Tiger Ausf.E's from the GrossDeutchland Division in August 1944:
Soviet tanks didn t look much better when they got destroyed.The photo about the destroyed panther is nothing Special compared to other photos.
The first photo isnt ISU 152 but SU 152
And that third IS 2 was destroyed by Tiger II from short distance by three shots between turret and hull.
If somebody think that IS 2 was worse at antitank fights in compare Panther and Tiger read this:
http://tankarchives.blogspot.sk/2013/07/is-2-vs-big-cats-at-lvov.html
http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2013/03/combat-accuracy-of-is-2.html
If it is stupid propaganda, then everything from german side about destroyed soviet vehicles it is.
30 Jul 2014, 17:00 PM
#672
Posts: 978
Wow, right when I expected that the thread was necroed for some ingame discussion purpose...
Here is the historic part:
Here is the on topic:
Let me bring this ontopic, because I wanted to know about the ISU-152 in the recent patch (which I thought the necro was about). It received some increased scatter I think in that patch after the 70 range nerf. So how is it now?
Here is the historic part:
Here is the on topic:
Let me bring this ontopic, because I wanted to know about the ISU-152 in the recent patch (which I thought the necro was about). It received some increased scatter I think in that patch after the 70 range nerf. So how is it now?
30 Jul 2014, 17:14 PM
#673
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
Yes, after the shot had to be corrected, what 122mm D-25T gun was oblique - a blatant lie, D-25T gun excellent and good optics with greater magnification than a tiger complement gun. The biggest problem is reload. Therefore, Soviet soldiers tried to destroy enemy tanks with one shot. Tiger crews were forbidden to engage in a duel with the tank IS-2. But this does not negate the fact that you can destroy any tank, no matter how perfect it is.
30 Jul 2014, 18:02 PM
#674
Posts: 177
Permanently BannedStill waiting for a fix on this unit. Katyusha is horrible, but the ISU152 has been incredibly horrible for months now.
The fact that it one-shots all infantry based units has to be fixed. Period. In a game where unit preservation and veterancy are key to victory a unit that just vaporizes every infantry squad out of nowhere (yes the range decrease made it less horrible) has no place.
The fact that it one-shots all infantry based units has to be fixed. Period. In a game where unit preservation and veterancy are key to victory a unit that just vaporizes every infantry squad out of nowhere (yes the range decrease made it less horrible) has no place.
30 Jul 2014, 18:44 PM
#675
Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2
The elephant was terrible and not balanced throughout the year, and you are complaining about the ISU-152. ISU-152 was the only thing that stopped the stupid spammers, but now ISU-152 is not worth their investment more profitable to build two Katyusha rockets.
30 Jul 2014, 18:49 PM
#676
Posts: 177
Permanently BannedThe elephant was terrible and not balanced throughout the year, and you are complaining about the ISU-152. ISU-152 was the only thing that stopped the stupid spammers, but now ISU-152 is not worth their investment more profitable to build two Katyusha rockets.
Yeah...compare the Elefant (which has never been OP, because of the simple fact that it can only deal with one kind of unit) to the ISU, which can handle every kind of unit.
Its not only worth its investment, there simply isnt a reason not to get it because it will have paid itself after firing ~5 shots.
The ISU got a nerf, but at the same time its only counters (elefant and Jagdtiger) got nerfed too. The only thing that happened, that it is more prone to flanks, and thats a good thing. However, the main issue still exists. If an ISU hits the field you HAVE TO engage it asap. You have to throw in all your units (even if it is well supported) or it will pick you off one by one over time.
The elefant can be ignored until you take out its support, you cant do that with the ISU.
30 Jul 2014, 19:15 PM
#677
Posts: 304
Am I the only one who hasn't found this unit to be all that amazing?
I've used it in 1v1 a few times and I hardly see it get squad wipes. It's a good general purpose assault gun (as the AT is quite good too) if it's protected, but I rarely see it destroying armies.
I don't play team games, so is it that much more dangerous in 2v2 and up?
I've used it in 1v1 a few times and I hardly see it get squad wipes. It's a good general purpose assault gun (as the AT is quite good too) if it's protected, but I rarely see it destroying armies.
I don't play team games, so is it that much more dangerous in 2v2 and up?
30 Jul 2014, 19:17 PM
#678
Posts: 1701
Am I the only one who hasn't found this unit to be all that amazing?
I've used it in 1v1 a few times and I hardly see it get squad wipes. It's a good general purpose assault gun (as the AT is quite good too) if it's protected, but I rarely see it destroying armies.
I don't play team games, so is it that much more dangerous in 2v2 and up?
In 2v2 you have more forces protecting your ISU that is camping the middle VP (your teammate), so if you dont have Jagdtiger, gg wp.
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30 Jul 2014, 19:19 PM
#679
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
In 2v2 you have more forces protecting your ISU that is camping the middle VP (your teammate), so if you dont have Jagdtiger, gg wp.
Not really.
Just had a 2v2 where opponents did exactly what you describe, we were pretty desperate to end it as they had just 3 VPs, but us blob and pair of ISU was nearing critical mass, so I just went 2 puma YOLO rush, AT guns couldn't keep, infantry couldn't keep up, got ISU, got priest and saved one puma on sliver of health.
There are ways around everything.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
30 Jul 2014, 19:25 PM
#680
Posts: 177
Permanently BannedDouble Puma vs ISU -> Viable counter :'D
In theory flanks should be a great counter to the isu, in reality few players are too stupid not to support their ISU properly. At least at rank 1000 and below
In theory flanks should be a great counter to the isu, in reality few players are too stupid not to support their ISU properly. At least at rank 1000 and below
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